OT: Nicea 2025? This sounds like BIG news

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, May 30 2014 11:00 PM

Intriguing...  originally described as an "ecumenical council" now wording revised to an "ecumenical meeting" between Catholic and Orthodox leaders, marking 17 centuries since the Council of Nicea.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/samrocha/2014/05/now-this-is-news-nicea-2025/ 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 30 2014 11:42 PM

original post: <deleted by poster because of way it was misunderstood>

or 11.5 centuries since the Council of Constantinople 879-800 that debated the filioque that was a major element in the division between the Catholics and the Orthodox. http://orthodoxwiki.org/Eighth_Ecumenical_Council (No, the Western Church has little defense for their procedure on this matter). Ironically this was a reunification council.

Now, if we can get the Oriental Orthodox to show up in 2025.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Schezic | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 12:22 AM

MJ. Smith:

<deleted by poster because of way it was misunderstood>

Our Bad. We will try harder to understand you.

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Paul C | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 12:29 AM

MJ. Smith:

<deleted by poster because of way it was misunderstood>

At least you get the option to delete your own post. Someone decided to delete mine for me. Stick out tongue I guess Rank Has It's Privileges.Hmm

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 12:31 AM

That's a looong way off. Who knows what might come to pass before that rolls around? Smile

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 12:38 AM

David Paul:

That's a looong way off. Who knows what might come to pass before that rolls around? Smile

A little advanced planning in order to hit a historically significant date. Given that almost all of the Oriental Orthodox could reunite with either Eastern Orthodox or Catholics, I surely hope they are invited too. Hey, the church moves slowly.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Paul C | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 12:56 AM

David Paul:

That's a looong way off. Who knows what might come to pass before that rolls around? Smile

David;

Does this text apply to this discussion? >>>> Daniel 2:43

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Willard Scott | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 1:33 AM

While the Ecumenical Movement is a powerful tool to promote peace on earth. It can be most counter-productive concerning the message of salvation.

I became involved with a food pantry that was sponsored by a non-denominational church. Wonderful people ... Loving, compassionate. I eventually sat in on a couple of the worship services there. I was depressed for weeks. The pastor was totally ham strung. He could not make a stand on any one issue for fear of offending one of the many views his congregation held. It was the most pitiful, watered down, lukewarm messaging I have ever heard. The pastor eventually had to resign and establish a Church with a clear belief system. Satan has been very successful fragmenting the Church. Each denomination having their own pet doctrine. Making theirs the only true message. I fear 11 years is a very optimistic outlook for reunification.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 1:46 AM

Paul C:

MJ. Smith:

<deleted by poster because of way it was misunderstood>

At least you get the option to delete your own post. Someone decided to delete mine for me. Stick out tongue I guess Rank Has It's Privileges.Hmm

It probably got deleted automatically. When someone deletes their own post, they can choose the option to "delete children" as well, which will cause any replies to their post to get deleted. Such replies wouldn't make sense out of context without the post they were replying to. Also, if they'd quoted a good chunk of the post the user was trying to delete, it makes sense to delete those as well.

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Paul C | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 1:54 AM

Rosie Perera:
they can choose the option to "delete children" as well,
That seems to be an unfortunate tag for a forum function, Given the heated "Right To Life" debate raging now. Hmm

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 1:57 AM

Paul C:

Rosie Perera:
they can choose the option to "delete children" as well,
That seems to be an unfortunate tag for a forum function, Given the heated "Right To Life" debate raging now. Hmm

Oh dear, this thread just keeps getting worse and worse. I regret starting it, though I thought I was posting something that would be of general interest. Maybe I should delete my original post and abort all its children. Surprise

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 3:08 AM

Rosie Perera:

Paul C:

Rosie Perera:
they can choose the option to "delete children" as well,
That seems to be an unfortunate tag for a forum function, Given the heated "Right To Life" debate raging now. Hmm

Oh dear, this thread just keeps getting worse and worse. I regret starting it, though I thought I was posting something that would be of general interest. Maybe I should delete my original post and abort all its children. Surprise

That must have been what you did in the "Bar None" thread. I spent over an hour hammering out a reply and then when I hit "post" the whole thing just evaporated.

Fun. 

Confused

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 3:18 AM

Paul C:

David Paul:

That's a looong way off. Who knows what might come to pass before that rolls around? Smile

David;

Does this text apply to this discussion? >>>> Daniel 2:43

Certainly it is a facet, along with hundreds of other passages. My point is that the historical arc is about to be overturned by the prophetic arc. It is His response to what He describes in Isa. 29:16 and elsewhere.The overturned gets overturned. We've all gotten accustomed to walking on the ceiling. That can't last.

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Paul C | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 4:50 AM

Rosie Perera:
Oh dear, this thread just keeps getting worse and worse. I regret starting it, though I thought I was posting something that would be of general interest. Maybe I should delete my original post and abort all its children. Surprise
You are right This thing is possessed. Your last post made me think of the series "All My Children" Don't know how it could get worse than that. Zip it!

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 31 2014 1:32 PM

Willard Scott:
I fear 11 years is a very optimistic outlook for reunification.

There are already joint statements (Eastern Orthodox/Oriental Orthodox; Catholic/Oriental Orthodox) agreeing that the original Christological disagreements are no longer held. Doctrinally, there are no impediments to reunion. Depending on your choice of theologian, there were 3-12 issues separating the Orthodox and Catholics when Pope Pius VI and the Patriarchs of Constantinople and Jerusalem began talking - resulting in the Catholic-Orthodox Joint declaration of 1965. There was some speculation shortly before Pope Pius VI died that reunification was near - the main obstacles being political and cultural. Consultations have continued on the issues ever since. So reunification is very optimistic but distinctly possible.

Willard Scott:
uccessful fragmenting the Church

Only in the West - the Oriental church has only one significant branch not in communion with the others; the Eastern (Byzantine) has none.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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