Important announcement for OS X 10.8 users

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Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jun 7 2014 12:16 PM

Following Apple's WWDC announcement that OS X 10.10 "Yosemite" will be a free update, and that certain new technologies will only run on OS X 10.9 "Mavericks" and later, we are considering requiring OS X 10.9 and later for Logos 5.3. This would allow us to use Apple's latest technologies sooner, support the latest platforms better, and reduce our testing costs.

This would override our previous announcement that Logos 5.3 would support OS X 10.8 (http://community.logos.com/forums/t/80475.aspx); instead, OS X 10.8 users would be limited to Logos 5.2b (just like OS X 10.6 and 10.7). Our current usage statistics show us that we have only a small number of 10.8 users who haven't updated to 10.9 for free.

If you are an OS X 10.8 user and can’t—or won’t Smile—update to Mavericks or Yosemite, please let us know in this thread so we can make an informed decision about reducing support for this OS version.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 7 2014 11:23 PM

Apple hardware requirements are identical for OS X 10.8 "Mountain Lion", 10.9 "Mavericks", and 10.10 "Yosemite" => http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/06/04/os-x-yosemite-runs-on-same-macs-as-mavericks-but-ios-8-drops-support-for-iphone-4 so any Mac running 0S X 10.8 can freely update.

Curious if Logos development plans to use Swift => https://developer.apple.com/swift/

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 8 2014 4:28 AM

A fair decision. Upgrading 10.8 to 10.9/10 is a no-brainer compared to what Windows users have to go through.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 8 2014 5:02 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Apple hardware requirements are identical for OS X 10.8 "Mountain Lion", 10.9 "Mavericks", and 10.10 "Yosemite"

So lets make 10.10 the new required OS and be done with it! Big Smile

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 9 2014 6:43 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

Apple hardware requirements are identical for OS X 10.8 "Mountain Lion", 10.9 "Mavericks", and 10.10 "Yosemite" => http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/06/04/os-x-yosemite-runs-on-same-macs-as-mavericks-but-ios-8-drops-support-for-iphone-4 so any Mac running 0S X 10.8 can freely update.

Curious if Logos development plans to use Swift => https://developer.apple.com/swift/

Keep Smiling Smile

I'm curious about Swift to. Wondering what benefits Logos would have to use it. I'm hoping to review the developer docs to better understand it.

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David Manning | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 10 2014 12:34 PM

10.10 My vote too.

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Lewis Harper | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 10 2014 2:32 PM

We don't have 10.10 and won't have it until maybe the fall, are you saying you want to wait until then?  Let's get the 10.9 so we will be able to move on with the 5.3 updates.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 10 2014 3:08 PM

Lewis Harper:
We don't have 10.10 and won't have it until maybe the fall, are you saying you want to wait until then?  Let's get the 10.9 so we will be able to move on with the 5.3 updates.

No. It was a half joke. Logos has traditionally been reluctant to change the minimum requirements... But Mac users update (much) more frequently than Windows users. If Logos were to make 10.10 the standard, we would potentially see 10.10 specific features more quickly. 10.9 is fine with me... but in all seriousness, if the hardware specs are the same, perhaps they SHOULD make 10.10 the standard a few months after its release.

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Patrick S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 11 2014 1:00 PM

Bradley Grainger (Logos):

If you are an OS X 10.8 user and can’t—or won’t Smile—update to Mavericks or Yosemite, please let us know in this thread so we can make an informed decision about reducing support for this OS version.

Perhaps better stated as "If you are an OS X user and you can't wait for Logos to make more use of the new technologies of OS X to have Logos 5 run better then put up your hand".

Here's a vote of two hands!

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 12 2014 5:26 AM

Patrick S.:

Bradley Grainger (Logos):

If you are an OS X 10.8 user and can’t—or won’t Smile—update to Mavericks or Yosemite, please let us know in this thread so we can make an informed decision about reducing support for this OS version.

Perhaps better stated as "If you are an OS X user and you can't wait for Logos to make more use of the new technologies of OS X to have Logos 5 run better then put up your hand".

Here's a vote of two hands!

Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes 

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Caleb S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 17 2014 10:56 AM

Either way, I WILL be upgrading to Yosemite. And when I eventually upgrade my Mac (when I have money for it of course) I will be on the latest OS X at that point in any case. So, a non-issue for me either way.

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Michael Hatcher | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 18 2014 7:53 AM

I am all for it. I will upgrade to Yosemite as soon as I can.

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Ben Bush | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 19 2014 11:17 AM

Amen to what Bama said. I waited just a little while to upgrade to Mavericks until folks I trust on this forum and elsewhere said the water is fine, jump in. I'm guessing a month or so after Yosemite's release, whatever bugs will be worked out and I'll upgrade. Lord willing, would love for a new Macbook Pro to be a part of the upgrade! Smile

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Doug Hanna | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 19 2014 4:18 PM

Patrick S.:

Bradley Grainger (Logos):

If you are an OS X 10.8 user and can’t—or won’t Smile—update to Mavericks or Yosemite, please let us know in this thread so we can make an informed decision about reducing support for this OS version.

Perhaps better stated as "If you are an OS X user and you can't wait for Logos to make more use of the new technologies of OS X to have Logos 5 run better then put up your hand".

Here's a vote of two hands!

I'm with Patrick! Two hands and two feet in the air over here!

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 27 2014 8:21 AM

Generally speaking I'd be tempted to go with the crowd suggesting 10.10 but the problem is that Apple have been removing functionality at least as quick as they add, it so far as I can tell.

I am still gutted that iwork has lost most of its accessibility features since 4.0...

In short, I would want to know what I lose in the update before I commit to the update. Sometimes it has proved worth while to wait 6 months before making the jump.

Sorry to be a kill joyWink

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 27 2014 11:18 AM

What functionality did they remove in OSX 10.8 to 10.9? The new version of iWork is a completely new program from the ground up, designed to work more closely in the cloud and with the moble apps. I am unaware of anything significantly removed from 10.8 to 10.9 to 10.10. 

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Alan Macgregor | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 27 2014 12:54 PM

Alright, here is my tuppence worth:

OSX 10.9 is an enhancement of 10.8 which was a great improvement on 10.7. OSX 10.7 was not as good, IMHO, as 10.6, but 10.8 and 10.9 have more than recovered the position.

Nevertheless, the current iWork is not fit for purpose, particularly Pages 5 which is a pale shadow of 4.3. In fact, many people, myself included, uninstalled Pages 5 and re-instated 4.3 as our working version. As far as I'm concerned Pages 5 is hardly a serious contender until it has recovered more ground. I need the functionality of a serious word-processor which Pages 4.3 still is.

Personally, having previewed the features in 10.10, I'm confident that it will do the business and with a name like Yosemite it promises to be a towering success! Wink

I think that it would be sensible for Logos to use it as its OSX base for the near future, particularly as any Apple which can run 10.8 will be able to run 10.10, as far as I can see.

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