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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 9 2014 12:02 AM

It would seem (to me) that the Chan resources were moved from Vyrso to Logos so that Logos wouldn't have to price match on them. There's no added value in having these as a "full Logos resource" because no extra tagging is needed. I would rather have all my books in one place but free is free :) And once I've read it I'll probably not need to look at it again.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 9 2014 12:14 AM

Tom Reynolds:
It would seem (to me) that the Chan resources were moved from Vyrso to Logos so that Logos wouldn't have to price match on them.

Given that it is only publisher discounts that Logos tries to match, what is your reasoning for this?

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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 9 2014 1:24 AM

Logos resources don't discount to match publisher discounts, therefore if a title is in "Logos format" it will not be discounted as as been mentioned repeatedly in this thread. If this Chan title was still available in Vyrso it would be free today and this thread wouldn't exist.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 9 2014 1:55 AM

I have a somewhat different understanding of how a publisher discount works. However, it doesn't matter. I'd prefer to have almost no Vyrso resources, have little interest in most its titles, and hate the free/sale marketing technique rather than the offering of a set, fair price. "Free" simply means I'm paying more for something else.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 9 2014 3:54 AM

Tom Reynolds:

It would seem (to me) that the Chan resources were moved from Vyrso to Logos so that Logos wouldn't have to price match on them. 

i am not sure why they were moved, but that motivation doesn't seem to click with me. Vyrso gives away hundreds of titles each year. Why pick on poor Francis? Wink

Actually, it may simply be due to page numbers. My guess is that these might be used as supplemental text books by some colleges. 

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 9 2014 4:01 AM

MJ. Smith:
I'd prefer to have almost no Vyrso resources, have little interest in most its titles,

I likewise am not interested in most of the titles, but there are more than a few gems.  The Classic Lutheran novel The Hammer of God, of course...

Baker has many good titles - especially in their Brazos Press label, which I do wish could be searched for separately on the site... Heck - https://vyrso.com/product/13325/death-and-afterlife-a-theological-introduction was even a freebie, but also https://vyrso.com/product/13307/conversations-with-poppi-about-god-an-eight-year-old-and-her-theologian-grandfather-trade-questions, https://vyrso.com/product/13502/is-the-reformation-over-an-evangelical-assessment-of-contemporary-roman-catholicism , and https://vyrso.com/product/14193/testing-scripture-a-scientist-explores-the-bible .

Abingdon has many titles that I wish were full Logos resources - especially their commentary series, but also https://vyrso.com/product/39068/a-theological-introduction-to-the-old-testament-2nd-edition and https://vyrso.com/product/39580/a-history-of-christian-thought-in-one-volume.

That said, IMHO the signal to noise ratio is often fairly low with Vyrso.

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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 9 2014 7:11 AM

MJ. Smith:

"Free" simply means I'm paying more for something else.

From what I've read publishers love the free book model because it results in much bigger sales after the free period to those who missed the freebie. That's why so many books are offered free in Vyrso, et al. So therefore you aren't paying more for something else because their greater sales result in more money to offer more books and more freebies in the future :).

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 9 2014 7:17 AM

I cannot find this book free on Vyrso...guess I missed it.  Oh well.

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Daniel NM | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 9 2014 7:53 AM

JoshInRI:

I cannot find this book free on Vyrso...guess I missed it.  Oh well.

It wasn't a Vyrso e-book, but is a Logos edition. It was available elsewhere as a free promotion on Pentecost Sunday. http://www.dccebooks.com/products/multiply

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