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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jun 14 2014 6:57 AM

I think one thing that came out of this thread is the need for a hardware forum.  Some people don't want the Logos 5 or other forums filled up by posts about hardware, and I understand that, but clearly questions concerning hardware are important.  There are a lot of people in this forum, and there are a lot of computer experts, so I think it would provide a great service for people to be able to ask computer related questions concerning equipment that would/would not run Logos, or even questions about computer related problems in general.  It might get more customers involved.  I build all of my own computers, and I would love to participate in such a forum with Logos users.  I have also had issues running four monitors on two video cards that have not been solved through tech support or the forums, even though one user seemed to be on the right track.  This could be a great service for everyone.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 14 2014 7:05 AM

4 display on two cards...

I have a similar set up - running 3 on one, and 1 on the second.

The trick is using your displayport (or mini display port) as this can theoretically support 3 or 6 or 8 (my cards are rated for 12 - 6x each display port for a theoretical max of 24 displays between the two cards) displays on its own. You need to find an active adapter from display port to whatever your display uses, and use the display port for one display, and the hdmi, dvi, or vga port for your second display.

I have an hd 7770 card by MSI with two displayports and thus I am using both display ports, and the dvi port on one card, and the HDMI port on the second (for a tv, so that sound comes out the speakers).

Hope that helps.

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 14 2014 7:12 AM

I'm sorry abondservant.  I should have linked the thread to be more specific.  I actually use all four monitors via DVI x2 on each.  The problem is whenever both cards are active in Logos, there is a refresh problem that occurs.  The thread is here.  If you know anything, I would certainly appreciate the help.  I should also mention that tech support has seen the problem, and they have the log files, but they seemed to have no idea what causes it.  If I go into windows settings and turn off the two monitors attached to the second card, everything works flawlessly.  Tech support did say that it might work if I had the exact same GPUs for each card, but I don't want to spend the extra $200 on a hunch.

Again, it would be great to have a hardware technical forum to discuss these issues.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 14 2014 7:29 AM

replied to the other thread... you may have tried some of the suggestions already, but its worth a shot.

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Paul C | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 14 2014 7:31 AM

Joseph Turner:
I think one thing that came out of this thread is the need for a hardware forum.
I certainly second this motion. Smile

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 14 2014 7:43 AM

Hardware forum?  How do you install a hinge?  Wink

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 14 2014 7:44 AM

I feel that hardware posts fit quite well in General (or Android, iPhone/iPad etc.) if they help Logos users. The existing structure works when users follow the guidelines.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 15 2014 6:56 PM

Lee:
The existing structure works when users follow the guidelines.

But users don't follow the guidelines (in many mostly presently irrelevant ways).

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 15 2014 7:04 PM

George Somsel:

Hardware forum?  How do you install a hinge?  Wink

With a thing-a-ma-jig, duh!  I think this illustrates the need for the hardware forum.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 15 2014 8:37 PM

Joseph Turner:

With a thing-a-ma-jig, duh!  I think this illustrates the need for the hardware forum.

Add my vote for a hardware forum.Yes

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 15 2014 10:07 PM

SineNomine:

Lee:
The existing structure works when users follow the guidelines.

But users don't follow the guidelines (in many mostly presently irrelevant ways).

There should be another cure for that ill!

The present structure works, precisely because it follows Logos program categories.

Besides, if certain technically-minded users want to "let it all hang out", couldn't they organize a little Faithlife group on their own? I know the answer: it isn't as much fun as having the entire forum's audience! Well then, you take the floor, you take the mike, you follow the guidelines.

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 16 2014 7:21 AM

Lee:

SineNomine:

Lee:
The existing structure works when users follow the guidelines.

But users don't follow the guidelines (in many mostly presently irrelevant ways).

There should be another cure for that ill!

The present structure works, precisely because it follows Logos program categories.

Besides, if certain technically-minded users want to "let it all hang out", couldn't they organize a little Faithlife group on their own? I know the answer: it isn't as much fun as having the entire forum's audience! Well then, you take the floor, you take the mike, you follow the guidelines.

Lee, I don't understand why anyone would be against the idea.  It's not about "letting it all hang out."  It's about keeping posts about hardware in one place so that people can go to that particular forum if they choose and find that type of information.  It could also be a place that our forum members could ask for computer help that might not be directly related to Logos.  Why would you want the L5 forum clogged with that type of posts?  If they were trying to limit forums, then that would be one think, but we already have a number of forums, and the addition of a hardware forum would seem to be an obvious addition.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 16 2014 7:32 AM

I would love a Logos on Windows 8.x hardware forum.

Than I can ask there whether Logos 5.x works well on the Asus Vivo Tablet with the digitizer.

Can it hold my whole library if I decide to run nothing else except it, maybe Kindle and OneNote for note taking for church, bible study, and school.

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 16 2014 7:38 AM

JoshInRI:

I would love a Logos on Windows 8.x hardware forum.

Than I can ask there whether Logos 5.x works well on the Asus Vivo Tablet with the digitizer.

Can it hold my whole library if I decide to run nothing else except it, maybe Kindle and OneNote for note taking for church, bible study, and school.

All good questions!  I would be hesitant to suggest that there be multiple forums for hardware however, as that might get a little cluttered.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 16 2014 7:58 AM

Joseph Turner:
 It could also be a place that our forum members could ask for computer help that might not be directly related to Logos.  

If that is your reasoning, I withdraw my support. I do NOT want any part of the forums turned into a generic geek squad free-for-all.

Joseph Turner:
Why would you want the L5 forum clogged with that type of posts?

I don't want generic hardware posts anywhere on the website. Go to Tom's Hardware site to "let it all hang out."

EDIT: Or did you get banned from Tom's Hardware for posting about Logos Bible software? Surprise

 

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 16 2014 8:43 AM

I rest my case. Smile

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 16 2014 9:42 AM

Super.Tramp:

Joseph Turner:
 It could also be a place that our forum members could ask for computer help that might not be directly related to Logos.  

If that is your reasoning, I withdraw my support. I do NOT want any part of the forums turned into a generic geek squad free-for-all.

Joseph Turner:
Why would you want the L5 forum clogged with that type of posts?

I don't want generic hardware posts anywhere on the website. Go to Tom's Hardware site to "let it all hang out."

EDIT: Or did you get banned from Tom's Hardware for posting about Logos Bible software? Surprise

 

I don't care one way or the other.  People are going to post their problems whether or not there is a specific forum.  I thought it would be a good idea for people to discuss in this discussion post what they would like to see in such a forum, but for the most part people just agree or disagree with whatever is written without discussing, so it seems that it has been deemed not a good idea.

I would assume you are joking about being banned from Tom's Hardware website, as I have never done anything to get banned from anywhere.  I do use that site for information, but not enough to create an account.

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Willard Scott | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 17 2014 12:37 AM

Joseph Turner:
I would assume you are joking about being banned from Tom's Hardware website, as I have never done anything to get banned from anywhere.  I do use that site for information, but not enough to create an account.
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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 17 2014 1:13 AM

Willard Scott:
dictatorial, overbearing, tin star MVPs,

What charitable Christian language!Huh? Besides, I hold to the theory that the star shape is a hole.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 17 2014 7:41 AM

Willard Scott:
There are those who Assume that every forum has dictatorial, overbearing, tin star MVPs, But many forums allow/encourage discussion. Even when it runs counter to a particular moderators views.

Logos encourages discussion about Logos. They discourage discussion about other subjects, especially controversial ones. Most forums have similar rules: encouraging discussions about the subject they exist to discuss, discouraging discussions about completely unrelated subjects.

Furthermore, Logos is a business. If certain customers get insulted every time they walk into a store and the store owner does nothing to stop it, those customers are soon going to choose another store instead.

Lastly, slandering people who spend their time helping you and others says more about you than about them.

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