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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Jul 18 2014 7:37 PM

I tried to search for this topic and didn't find anything. Perhaps I am not using the correct words.

Over this past week I read 8 books while I was not connected to the internet. While reading on my iPad mini I was often frustrated with the responsiveness in turning pages as I often had to wait several seconds for the page to turn after I swiped with my finger. Has anyone else experienced this frustrating behaviour?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 19 2014 6:27 AM

Bruce Dunning:
Has anyone else experienced this frustrating behaviour?

  1. I don't have a mini, but I think that is unrelated. (which model?)
  2. I HAVE experienced this, but it has been more than a year (maybe two)
  3. It would be helpful to have more info:

What book? How many highlights/notes are attached to the resource? Have you killed the app? Killed other apps? Done a full restart of the device?

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 19 2014 7:38 AM

alabama24:

Bruce Dunning:
Has anyone else experienced this frustrating behaviour?

  1. I don't have a mini, but I think that is unrelated. (which model?)
  2. I HAVE experienced this, but it has been more than a year (maybe two)
  3. It would be helpful to have more info:

What book? How many highlights/notes are attached to the resource? Have you killed the app? Killed other apps? Done a full restart of the device?

I should have thought of restarting. I've had that situations many times in the computing world and should know this. Embarrassed I will try it to see if that helps.

I did have a few other apps running but I have since quit them.

It was pretty much happening with most books I was reading. After restarting I tried them again and that seemed to help.

I will have to remember this in the future.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 3:57 PM

I thought I would re-post about this again since I continues to happen even after I restarted.

It is frustrating waiting for the text to catch up as I read.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions?

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 4:07 PM

I've had a time when I was unable to open the app on my mini, and the cause was another app that was stealing memory.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 4:38 PM

Evan Boardman:

I've had a time when I was unable to open the app on my mini, and the cause was another app that was stealing memory.

I don't think this is not my issue since I close all other programs when I use Logos.

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 4:44 PM

The app I had issues with was suppose to be closed, but it still caused trouble. I had to restore backup to fix it. 

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 4:48 PM

So how do you tell if an app is causing a problem when it is closed?

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 4:51 PM

Try 2 finger scrolling rather than page turning. I find that works better for my on my iPad 3rd generation.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 5:08 PM

Thanks for the suggestion Dan. I'm still experiencing lag even when I use 2 finger scrolling. It doesn't happen all the time but enough to be annoying and sometimes quite frustrating.

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Brother Odin | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 5:27 PM

I get this issue all the time and have not found a way to fix it. And yes, it is very frustrating, this is one of the reasons when I get the prompt in the app "Do you love Logos" or something to that effect, I feel very strongly that "No" as it is dog slow.

I keep hoping that the speed will improve, but after so long, I am starting to lose hope.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 5:59 PM

Thanks for letting me know that someone else is having the same issues. I too hope it gets fixed soon.

Okay, I just did a test to let everyone know what exactly I am experiencing. I am reading the Vyrso book "Move: What 1,000 Churches Reveal about Spiritual Growth". I tested chapter 15 and below I've recorded the number of seconds I had to wait when trying to turn each page. Note how inconsistent it is. I even try to swipe early but it is hard to guess how long it will take. In this particular chapter it became worse as I progressed through it.

0,1,0,0,0 after 2 swipes, 0,2, 0 after 2 swipes, 0,5,3,2,0,0,3,5,2,5,8,5,9,5,5,5,2,9

To clarify, I am using a fairly new ipad mini with 32 GB memory and no other programs are running. I also restarted it soon before the test.

Suggestions welcome.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 6:13 PM

Bruce Dunning:

Suggestions welcome.

it seems you skipped over some of my original questions. Let's start with your notes/highlights. Do these resources have any notes/highlights? If so, how large is the note file? In l5, pretend to print the note file. How many pages? What about a resource without any notes/highlights. Same experience?

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 6:23 PM

Brother Odin:

I get this issue all the time and have not found a way to fix it. And yes, it is very frustrating, this is one of the reasons when I get the prompt in the app "Do you love Logos" or something to that effect, I feel very strongly that "No" as it is dog slow.

I keep hoping that the speed will improve, but after so long, I am starting to lose hope.

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To be honest I use Olivetree or Accordance for that reason.... but sometimes you are wanting your resources you have in Logos.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 6:46 PM

Dan Francis:

To be honest I use Olivetree or Accordance for that reason...

slow page turns like Bruce describes? 5 seconds? 9 seconds? I don't experience this. If you do, what are your note files like?

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 6:46 PM

Sorry Alabama, I missed that when resurrecting this thread.

alabama24:
Do these resources have any notes/highlights? If so, how large is the note file?

Yes, there are about 40 highlights in this book and no written notes.

alabama24:
In l5, pretend to print the note file. How many pages?

2 pages

alabama24:
What about a resource without any notes/highlights. Same experience?

I tried three other books that didn't have any notes. Some pages turned immediately but most had 2-3 second delays and several times I had to swipe more than once to get it to move to the next page but it was snappier than those with notes. Even this is frustrating although not as frustrating as when I use highlights.

Please tell me you are not saying that Logos may be affected by a few notes! I really want to take notes on my books and the reason why I got the iPad in the first place was to be able to do this easily.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 6:59 PM

Bruce Dunning:

Please tell me you are not saying that Logos may be affected by a few notes! 

Nope. Not saying that at all. I am saying that if you have LARGE note files, it causes problems... Even if there are only a few highlights/notes in that resource. I just did a quick check in a book I am currently reading. I have 80 highlights in 4 chapters. I expect to have 5 times that and don't anticipate any problems. When logos FIRST moved to highlights=notes! I had severe problems with the app. I decided to move to resource specific note files, and haven't had any problems since. 

Did you say which mini you have? Is this a first gen? I have a 3rd gen iPad (so old-ish)

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 7:57 PM

alabama24:
I decided to move to resource specific note files, and haven't had any problems since. 

Actually, after reading posts where you spoke about this on the forums I made sure all of my files were "resource specific" so I don't have any large files.

alabama24:
Did you say which mini you have? Is this a first gen? I have a 3rd gen iPad (so old-ish)

Yes I have an iPad mini with retina display A1489 - 32GB that I purchased in late 2013.

I'm glad to hear that you don't have any problems with yours but I'm still not seeing what my issue may be. Sad

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 8:21 PM

I don't own the resource you listed. Similar results with all other resources?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 3 2014 8:22 PM

How much free space on your device?

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