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Chuck P. | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Sep 20 2014 11:56 AM

I asked Logos for the Enhance Strong Concordance to easily get the following type of information for Greek and Hebrew words.  Logos says there is no plans for this book as it can be done in Logos 5.  I've spent a long time trying to figure out how to get it done...must not be that easy.  This is the type info I am looking for:

The Enhanced Strong says it is used 44 times in the Old Testament, being translated in the KJV as, “ruler 20, prince 9, captain 6, leader 4, governor 3, nobles 1, excellent things.”

Thanks,

Chuck

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 12:20 PM

Chuck P.:

This is the type info I am looking for:

The Enhanced Strong says it is used 44 times in the Old Testament, being translated in the KJV as, “ruler 20, prince 9, captain 6, leader 4, governor 3, nobles 1, excellent things.”

This resembles very much the content of Enhanced Strong's Lexicon (ESL) for Strong-# H5057 which Logos sells as part of https://www.logos.com/product/9438/amg-bible-essentials 

I assume, the Logos people referred to the Bible Word Study tool which will present this information in a "translation ring"

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 12:30 PM

Chuck,

You open an interlinear to your text. Right click on your term. Select lemma. Choose Bible Word Study from your pop up menu. Finally, select Translation and examine the translation wheel.

 

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Chuck P. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 12:38 PM

Thanks so much for the info..sorry for the double post...the first post said was an error and would have to repost...oh well...

I looks like I would have to count by hand the various English words referring to an original language word...as a software developer in my younger years, I wanted the software to let the computer do the work, not the user do the work...too bad Logos can't give totals as I requested....seems to be good info to me....oh well...I will count the translation for each word by hand I guess.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 12:42 PM

Chuck P.:

I looks like I would have to count by hand the various English words referring to an original language word...as a software developer in my younger years, I wanted the software to let the computer do the work, not the user do the work...too bad Logos can't give totals as I requested....seems to be good info to me....oh well...I will count the translation for each word by hand I guess.

No, there's a section "Translation" in  the BWS which gives exactly that:

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 12:49 PM

On the plus side, Logos offers counts relative to Bible version (Strongs is locked in).  But Logos, bless their hearts, just can make things easy.  You have to click each slice (which for some words is quite painful).   James Strong should have consulted for Logos eg 'ease of use'.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 12:53 PM

Because you appear to have abandoned your initial post as flawed, I am repeating advice here and encouraging you to see the responses to your initial post. The AMG Essentials resource contains the Ehanced Strongs which as Denise points out may find usefulness on mobile platforms.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 12:55 PM

Denise:
Logos offers counts relative to Bible version

True

Denise:
 You have to click each slice

False. Scrolling down from my screenshot above:

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 12:57 PM

False.  Mine, I had to click each.   Note the graph above and the next LXX section below.

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Chuck P. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 1:00 PM

I really don't want to pay for or need all the books in AMG Essentials...hopefully, someday Logos will offer the book individually of what I want in the group.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 1:14 PM

For any concordance-ers, don't forget the Lexham Analytical Lexicons (NT and LXX). Inexpensive and quite powerful (also moves into the Fathers).

For a piece of irony http://blog.logos.com/2009/05/whered_my_strongs_concordance_go/ where hard-coded counts were poo-poo'd. Only to produce .... hard-coded counts (and for good reason).

I really wish they do one for hebrew and latin, but apparently only greek scholars are available (aka 'Rick').

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Keith Larson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 3:26 PM

Chuck P.:

I asked Logos for the Enhance Strong Concordance to easily get the following type of information for Greek and Hebrew words.  Logos says there is no plans for this book as it can be done in Logos 5.  I've spent a long time trying to figure out how to get it done...must not be that easy.  This is the type info I am looking for:

The Enhanced Strong says it is used 44 times in the Old Testament, being translated in the KJV as, “ruler 20, prince 9, captain 6, leader 4, governor 3, nobles 1, excellent things.”

Thanks,

Chuck

What do you mean that Logos does not have it. It has been in my Library since Logos 2.0 days, maybe 1.8 even:

Strong, James. Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon. Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software, 2001.

5057

נָגִיד [nagiyd, nagid /naw·gheed/] n m. From 5046; TWOT 1289b; GK 5592; 44 occurrences; AV translates as "ruler" 20 times, "prince" nine times, "captain" six times, "leader" four times, "governor" three times, "nobles" once, and "excellent things" once. 1 leader, ruler, captain, prince. 1a ruler, prince. 1b prince-overseer. 1c ruler (in other capacities). 1d princely things.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 3:28 PM

'Concordance'  ... key word.  Shows the distribution of english translations.

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Chuck P. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 3:46 PM

Keith, you are wonderful....yep, got it in my library...was trying to find using the word "concordance"...this is exactly what I was looking for...would have save all of this if the person would have answered correctly my email asking about this a couple of weeks ago....should have go to the forum first...thanks so much to you and all....I prioritize it nearly to the top and now when I want to do a word lookup....there it is.....

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 3:52 PM

Denise you never cease to amaze me!

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Keith Larson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 4:16 PM

Chuck P.:

Keith, you are wonderful....yep, got it in my library...was trying to find using the word "concordance"...this is exactly what I was looking for...would have save all of this if the person would have answered correctly my email asking about this a couple of weeks ago....should have go to the forum first...thanks so much to you and all....I prioritize it nearly to the top and now when I want to do a word lookup....there it is.....

I am happy that you had it in your library. Looks like it has been removed from the Logos store.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 20 2014 9:52 PM

Chuck P.:
The Enhanced Strong says it is used 44 times in the Old Testament, being translated in the KJV as, “ruler 20, prince 9, captain 6, leader 4, governor 3, nobles 1, excellent things.”

Morph search with Analysis shows 43 uses in the Old Testament (one less ruler or rulers):

Bible search can be done for Strong's 5057 headword using a collection of Bibles.

Denise:

False.  Mine, I had to click each.  

What happens if click the center of Bible Study ring ? (using 5.3 Beta 1, can replicate all uses appearing below ring grouped by translation with count)

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Marilyn Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 19 2020 6:18 AM

Thank you! I know this is an old post but it just helped me. 

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