Best mobile platform win xp or android

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Paul Watson | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Sep 29 2014 7:10 AM

I am something of a nerd and I have the following ; 7 and 10" windows tablets and nd 7 and 10" android tablets.  I love using Android logos on the 10" tablet. The text size increase over the 7" makes it much easier to read.  When I first got Logos I tried to load it into my 10" win7 tablet (1.33 ghz. Processer,2 gb ram ,32 gb ssd.) And it just choked. Now it may be that I didn't get a chance to index everything, or maybe the little computer didn't have enough horse power to make it run.  Does anyone have any thoughts on what the minimum computer requirements would be to make it run and...

Since I am new to LOGOS, I mainly use my portables at church...what would be the pros and cons of using the windows vs android version of the software in following a sermon , looking up and going back and forth between verses and then saving all of that so that I can go back to it and study it later on?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 29 2014 8:09 AM

Paul Watson:
what would be the pros and cons of using the windows vs android version of the software

  1. Logos only has a crippled "mobile" app for windows. The only real option for windows users is to run Logos 5 on a full desktop powered device such as the Surface Pro. An "RT" level device will not run Logos.
  2. The "mobile" apps for Android (or iOS) allow users to download resources to read, highlight, and take notes offline. There are some other features (such as the passage guide) which can be run online only

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 29 2014 8:57 AM

Just trying to clarify, I think he said Win7 on a 1.33g tablet with an SSD (but the header said 'XP' so I'm a little confused).

The 1.33g would have been a problem (typical of netbooks). But the SSD would have offset the difference if the SSD was reasonbly fast.  Indexing would have been slow.

Going with Alabama's points, a decent Windows tablet (speed/SSD), if you can afford it, is your best choice.  After that, if you like Android-Logos, there's your answer.   I use both L5 on a W7 tablet (Lenovo) plus my iPad, with 99% of my Logos reading on the iPad.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 29 2014 10:15 AM

A 32 GB SSD would only be large enough for the smallest of libraries. 

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David Brown | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 29 2014 10:38 AM

> Logos only has a crippled "mobile'"app for windows.

I wonder why. The latest statcounter numbers show Win8 at 14%, iOS 12%, Android 17% across all devices over the last year. I wonder what the plan is for a Logos app on Win8? (Sorry. I know the topic is about Win vs. Android mobile, but I just happened to see this -- and was wondering.)

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 29 2014 10:59 AM

David Brown:
I wonder why. The latest statcounter numbers show Win8 at 14%, iOS 12%, Android 17% across all devices over the last year. I wonder what the plan is for a Logos app on Win8?

I have no idea what you are talking about... and I would love to see those numbers for clarification. However, this is about MOBILE operating systems. Logos DOES make an app for "Win8." It is called "Logos 5." It does not run on "RT" devices, which certainly do not have any significant market share. 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 29 2014 3:32 PM

David Brown:

> Logos only has a crippled "mobile'"app for windows.

I wonder why. The latest statcounter numbers show Win8 at 14%, iOS 12%, Android 17% across all devices over the last year. I wonder what the plan is for a Logos app on Win8?

It comes down to the fact that many consumers shy away from the "modern app"/Metro interface and the tablets that only run apps in that interface. If you have a tablet with full Windows 8 you can run Logos 5 on the desktop interface! Microsoft are building a new version of Windows because they see that the market has rejected their vision of the "modern app" supplanting desktop applications.

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Paul Watson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 29 2014 4:13 PM

Sorry for being the root of confusion... I have (3) ultra mobile PC's made by a company called Villiv that you have probably never heard of. 1 is a 7" screen that is running windows XP, another 7" is running windows 7 and a 10" is running windows 7.  I see now that all of them are to underpowrered to do anything with Logos. I have a 2.4ghz 4 core i7 with 8gb of ram  and indexing can bring it down to a crawl. . I wonder what people who use Logos professionally or have large libraries use to run it. You could almost justify getting a gaming computer system . 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 29 2014 5:57 PM

Paul Watson:
1 is a 7" screen that is running windows XP

XP is no longer supported anyway.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 29 2014 6:09 PM

My AMD octocore does just fine.

I suspect its not your processor, but instead your hard drive. Upgrading to an SSD should improve your response time dramatically.

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 30 2014 8:43 AM

2 GB RAM is too little to run Logos well, You need minimum 3 GB and Windows 7 32-bit, even that is rather little. Dual core is slower in general. Indexing is much slower on dual core than triple or quad core.

I wouldn't try to run Logos 5 with a tiny monitor.

If You want a fast computer, the least You can do is to copy everything from the old hard drive to a hybrid drive or SSD. That's not cheap but makes a difference.

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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 30 2014 9:24 AM

In 37 minutes Microsoft begins their presentation on Windows 9. Everyone is expecting it to be good news for both desktop and mobile users. Let's hope Logos users benefit the most :)

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 30 2014 2:10 PM

All hail Windows 10

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 30 2014 2:46 PM

Dave Hooton:

You mean Windows OS X, right? Wink

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 30 2014 3:33 PM

alabama24:
You mean Windows OS X, right? Wink

From the first photo on the page? The '10' designation and its rumoured upgrade policy has attracted comparisons to the Mac OS X designation & upgrades, so MS continues to confirm its lack of originality!

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 30 2014 5:13 PM

All kidding aside, I think Windows 10 looks solid. It looks like what Windows 8 should have been in the first place. 

Depending upon cost (I don't think it will be completely free for all users), I might pick up a copy to run with boot camp. 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 30 2014 5:39 PM

I should finally be able to stop the nagging reminder that updating to 8.1 is free!

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David Brown | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 1 2014 6:09 AM

Sorry, go to http://gs.statcounter.com/, select Operating System, All Platforms.

So I still don't understand the "wait for market share" comment from Logos. Eventually more of those 1.5 billion Windows users will have a version of Windows that supports Windows Store Apps (the Modern UI), whether on a Phone, Tablet or Desktop. (The One Product Family, One Platform, One Store message, right?) But even now Win8 show 14% market share for all devices. Isn't that enough to write a Logos Windows Store App? Just curious.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 1 2014 7:57 AM

David Brown:
So I still don't understand the "wait for market share" comment from Logos.

As I wrote in your other thread, the stats you are showing include desktop. You are asking about a mobile app... so you need to show mobile stats. Wink

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David Brown:
Eventually more of those 1.5 billion Windows users will have a version of Windows that supports Windows Store Apps

Right now, 99% of those Windows users can run Logos 5 or Logos 4 (although, admittedly, Logos 4 is unsupported). We're already serving the vast majority of the market without writing a Windows Store app.

The current message from Microsoft ("you can write a new app that runs on a tiny fraction of Windows devices but you can't reuse much of your existing code and, given our Silverlight and Windows Phone track record, you can't be confident that this new platform will even be supported in a few years") isn't very compelling for developers.

David Brown:
(The One Product Family, One Platform, One Store message, right?)

That doesn't exist right now. May it will in the future. 

Very few details about Windows 10 are available from Microsoft right now, so we don't have enough information to decide—let alone publicly discuss—how we'll support Microsoft's new platforms.

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