Searching for constructions where verb / participle use the same lemma within a sentence, clause, or phrase

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Andrew Allen | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Oct 24 2014 8:00 AM

I am curious if it is possible to search for constructions within the same sentence, clause or phrase where a conjugated verb and a participle have the same lemma? 

Example: In Heb. 1:1-2 you have God, participle (λαλήσας), time summary, verb (ἐλάλησεν) - the verb and the participle share the same lemma (λαλέω)

I’d like to find other examples of a where the verb / participle use the same lemma within a sentence clause or phrase!

Any advice?

Thanks!

Andrew

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 24 2014 8:07 AM

Interesting...

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 24 2014 8:27 AM

I would be surprised if this were possible in Logos. But I can learn!

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Vincent Setterholm | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 24 2014 2:26 PM

This is a syntax search, of course. When you're setting up each 'word' element, make sure to click 'matching skips levels' so you don't have to worry matching all the internal structure. The special sauce is to add an agreement operator to the second word telling it to match the lemma of the first word. You could, of course, use 'sentence' or 'phrase' as the top level element - this example uses clause. Adding the checkbox to highlight both word elements makes the results easier to scan, otherwise just the whole clause is highlighted. The use of 'anything' to allow intervening words does not prevent hits like Rev 22:11 from showing up where there are no intervening terms.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 24 2014 6:32 PM

OP's query: one is a "conjugated verb" and one is a participle. I assume the order and versification are not important.

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Vincent Setterholm | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 24 2014 7:33 PM

Sure, so you can assign any morph criteria you want (presuming the database you are searching tags that feature). If you don't care about the order of terms, just throw them in an unordered group. Assuming 'conjugated' here means 'finite', I'll exclude participles and infinitives from Word2, but you can tweak this to fit what you're looking for. Here's a screenshot for the new query (in the unordered group, the 'anything' element didn't make a difference, so I dropped it).

If by 'versification', you're asking if a sentence (or clause) can span verse boundaries, yes they can.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 25 2014 10:06 AM

Brilliant! Word₂ Lemma = Word₁ Lemma is the secret mojo.

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