Visual Copy Template Question

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Scott Sobie | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Oct 29 2014 5:29 AM

Greetings!  I wondered if anyone could help me understand what I might be doing wrong with the interesting, new "visual copy" feature of Logos 6.  My templates in the left pane seem quite limited, and I can't find any way to get the portraits of Spurgeon, Wesley, Edwards, etc. even when I'm using the right click/visual copy option from one of their works.  Logos simply puts the quote into a simple, colored slide, which is nice, but not nearly as exciting at the slide templates I'm seeing in the video tutorial. 

Any thoughts?  I appreciate it!

Scott

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 5:53 AM

This is one feature that requires access to the internet to get all the templates, I think. Are you connected? If so, they may still be having some server issues. I just tried it with an internet connection and it worked.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 5:54 AM

What logos package do you have?  

and

How's your connection to the internet, this is all done server-side so with the problem's Logos' servers have been having I wonder if that's involved.

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Scott Sobie | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 6:34 AM

Thanks for the input.  My internet connection is good, and I had the Bronze Logos 5, and moved to the Starter Logos 6.  Could it be that the Starter package doesn't include the nicer templates - like the heroes of faith portraits?  The whole Visual Copy function seems to work smoothly, with everything loading fairly quickly, except that the templates are limited to simple colored and textured backgrounds. 

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 6:39 AM

Unless I'm mistaken, many of the "fancier" images come from proclaim media, which IS part of starter (all the packages I think).  So I'm going to hazard that even though your internet was fine, you are still seeing a problem with the Logos server.

Is the problem persistent? The Logos servers seem to be running fairly well at the moment.

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Scott Sobie | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 6:45 AM

I wonder if that's the issue here?  I haven't purchased the proclaim presentation software and I'm not aware that it was a part of the packages.  The "problem" (if it is a problem) is persistent, so perhaps I do need to have a proclaim media license?

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Scott Sobie | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 6:48 AM

Perhaps this is the issue.  I do not have the Proclaim Presentation software and I wasn't aware that it was a part of any of the packages that I've purchased.  The problem (if it is a "problem") is persistent, so maybe I do need to have a proclaim license to have access to some of those "fancier" images? 

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 6:49 AM

No, you don't need proclaim the software.

The Proclaim media package is a part of the Logos 6 base packages. It uses imagery developed for/with/proclaim.  But you don't need proclaim.

I still suspect server issues.

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Scott Sobie | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 6:52 AM

That's good to hear.  I'll keep trying today!  Thanks for your input.

Blessings, Scott

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Alan | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 6:57 AM

May I add a questions to this discussion: is there a way to own your own personal templates or clipart?

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 7:07 AM

Alan,

Adding your own graphics was discussed early on, it is not a current feature. I am not certain if/when it will be. But I too would like it. 

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Alan | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 7:15 AM

Thanks for the answer

Pietermaritzburg, South Africa

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William Wu | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 7:26 AM

Scott,

I have been having the same issue.  I tried visual copy last night and the templates were quite limited and did not have, for instance, the Spurgeon side. 

I tried again this morning and there more noticeably more slides, although I'm not sure if they are all there.

Another question for you all:  Are we supposed to have the slide templates I see Logos using on their Facebook page that go along with Bible verses?  I believe they may be Proclaim templates (maybe).  I was really looking forward to having access to those as part of Logos 6 (I have the extended cross grade).  I thought I read somewhere on Logos' website that there are supposed to be like 250 of these...

Thanks,

William

 

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 7:41 AM

William,

If you mean the really artistic verse slides? Yes.  If you are searching on a verse which has one, that one should show as default.

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Todd White (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 7:45 AM

A large quantity of the visual copy templates are part of https://www.logos.com/product/45633/logos-media-archive which comes in bronze and above according to the comparison chart.

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Brent Hoefling | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 8:00 AM

What I discovered is the slide templates with the images of the author are apparently linked to the resource author.  so if the book wasn't written by Spurgeon, as example, and you are quoting from one of his sermons provided in a book by another author - the templates don't show.

if, however, you use a resource that the author is notes as Spurgeon, then use visual copy, the templates are different and show the ones with the author/spurgeon image.

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William Wu | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 8:07 AM

TCBlack - Thanks, that was helpful.  I tried it with one such verse and the artistic template did come up.  I was hoping that these templates would be able to be used with any verse or quote, oh well.

Todd - Yes, I believe the Logos Media Archive is included in the version of Logos 6 I got (Extended Crossgrade).

Brent - Ah, I see...that didn't seem to be noted in Logos' marketing of that feature, but I suppose it kind of makes sense...

William

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Alan | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 8:31 AM

Are these tags to bring up specific templates in all of the Bible versions, or is there a better tagged version to us?

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Scott Sobie | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 29 2014 11:49 AM

Thanks, Todd.  Yes, I think that's why I can't get those portrait of great Christian templates.  I only have the Starter version of Logos 6.  It might be a good thing for Logos to post this information somewhere if it's the case, so that others aren't spending a lot of time trying to figure out what they are doing wrong (like I have been!)

It would make sense that they would have more template options with visual copy with the better packages.  For now, I'll be happy with the templates which I can access.  It's a very nice feature either way. 

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William Wu | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 30 2014 2:18 PM

Hey everyone, so here's somethings I saw - and maybe more of what I was expecting and discussing as far as templates and slides:

https://blog.logos.com/2014/10/whats-new-in-logos-6-see-what-you-can-do/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LogosBibleSoftwareBlog+%28Logos+Bible+Software+Blog%29

(scroll down to "Build engaging presentations - fast")

More specifically (to quote the relevant portion):

Explore all of Logos 6’s new Media Collections:

  • Lexham Bible Background Slides: Get a slide presentation on every book in the Bible. Each slide collection includes the book’s theme, authorship, and context, and offers easily digestible maps, timelines, and content outlines.
  • Beitzel Photo Library: View over 15,000 beautiful photos of the Holy Land. Each photo is tagged by location and Bible verse for easy searching.
  • Artifacts from the British Museum: Explore the craftsmanship and artistry of biblical times with photos of key artifacts from the British Museum.
  • Logos 6 Media: Get stunning Verse of the Day art created by professional designers, presentation templates, 3D flyovers of biblical places, fine art representing significant Bible characters and events, and much more.
  • The Cultural Context of the Bible: View seminary-level presentations from distinguished professor and New Testament scholar, Dr. David deSilva. Explore the biblical world as he guides you through places like Sardis, Athens, Colassae, and Hierapolis, and studies artifacts from Caesar Augustus’ reign and the Flavian Dynasty.
  • Faithlife Study Bible Media: Get into the biblical world with detailed, easy-to-understand infographics. Explore ancient buildings and places, like the Tower of Babel, Ancient Jericho, Noah’s Ark, and Rome in Paul’s day.
  • Preaching Theme Slides: Get beautiful premade slides for your next sermon or presentation! These professionally designed slides cover some of the most popular preaching topics, including holiness, healing, love and marriage, greed, and more.

I looked at some of these features and I supposedly have them, but at least for some of them, I'm unsure of how I'm supposed to access them - notwithstanding some of the helpful tips I got already here, like the artistic slides showing up when they exist for a particular verse.For instance the firs item of the side presentation of every book of the Bible or the last item of the premade slides on topics like holiness, etc.

Are these simply forthcoming, or am I just not looking in the right place?

William

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