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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 2:20 AM

Dear Logos dev: as rousing cheers leap off your monitors and reverberate through your cubicles, remember there is a silent majority who would rather use the software qua "normal user". You know, the ones who are just using the software for study, as your marketing guys say. They may not have the time or inclination to write on these forums. But their wallets will do the talking.

Dear update-lover: you can see plenty more action in the beta channel. Sign up is free! Although honestly speaking "beta" or "stable" is just a label nowadays.

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 5:04 AM

I get excited when I see the program is downloading updates.  It means it is getting better!

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 5:14 AM

David Taylor Jr:

I get excited when I see the program is downloading updates.  It means it is getting better!



Yes indeed. On my computer/internet it only takes a moment for them to download, and index as well most of the time. Plus with the tools logos gives us to manage when they download its not even a nuisance. I can use my head, and plan when they will occur so as not to be disruptive. IE at night before bed I kick off the update, wait for the download to start, and then close logos. By morning the updating is done. Then in the morning I check for free books, if any, I kick off the download, close logos, and make my self breakfast. In this way there are no interferences with with my studies. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 6:24 AM

Lee:
Dear update-lover: you can see plenty more action in the beta channel. Sign up is free!

For clarification: This thread is apparently about RESOURCE updates rather than SOFTWARE updates. 

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 6:33 AM

alabama24:

Lee:
Dear update-lover: you can see plenty more action in the beta channel. Sign up is free!

For clarification: This thread is apparently about RESOURCE updates rather than SOFTWARE updates. 

I did not reach that conclusion from reading the OP. Besides, within the bounds of usual expectation, updates of the magnitude and frequency complained of, belong in "beta" territory.

I'm a user, not a fan. I surmise the silent majority out there would fit in that category also.

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Bryan S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 8:22 AM

Thank lee, this is my feeling as well. I have used countless other good programs and never had to update them this much. To me it would appear that there is a lack of attention to detail or there just rushing to field a program way too soon. I had only owned logos 5 for two months and I bought it at a conference and there was not even a mention of logos 6 but when it came out I upgraded to it (I have the gold) This program cost way too much to have this many problems. the developers need to get on the ball. Super Angry

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 8:33 AM

I think the devs hear you. They may not have the final word on some matters.

Meanwhile, if the program works well enough now, you can mitigate by turning off automatic updates until a few weeks later, or a time when you don't need to use it right away.

Welcome to the forums. This can be a good place to find technical and other help.

Devs: - how about a middle-ground, daily/weekly/monthly user-selectable update-check option? Just a few lines of code.

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Mike Tourangeau | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 8:34 AM

David Taylor Jr:

I get excited when I see the program is downloading updates.  It means it is getting better!

Me too....more tagging!

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 8:52 AM

Bryan Strickland:

Thank lee, this is my feeling as well. I have used countless other good programs and never had to update them this much. To me it would appear that there is a lack of attention to detail or there just rushing to field a program way too soon. I had only owned logos 5 for two months and I bought it at a conference and there was not even a mention of logos 6 but when it came out I upgraded to it (I have the gold) This program cost way too much to have this many problems. the developers need to get on the ball. Super Angry

Most of the updates are not problems.  You are not really being fair or objective about this.

There have only been 4 software updates since L6 launch.  That is no different than any other major program out there.  The rest are resource updates.  Many times an update is not fixing a problem, but rather adding addition information/tagging/metadata/footnotes/updates/content to the resource.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 8:55 AM

Lee:

Devs: - how about a middle-ground, daily/weekly/monthly user-selectable update-check option? Just a few lines of code.

We already essentially have daily - simply set a short time frame for download. It shouldn't be hard to add a day of week function or even a day of month although I see some risk with a monthly cycle.

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Bryan S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 8:59 AM

I did turn off auto updates to make life easier... I too want my program up to date though and would like to leave it on or schedule it but I turn my computer off when i'm done using it... maybe an update on Mondays when most pastors are off...(but i still study) its just a day i can live with out it.  

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 9:01 AM

Bryan Strickland:

I did turn off auto updates to make life easier... I too want my program up to date though and would like to leave it on or schedule it but I turn my computer off when i'm done using it... maybe an update on Mondays when most pastors are off...(but i still study) its just a day i can live with out it.  

If you have auto updates turned off you can still update at any time by typing "Update Now" in the command bar.

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Andy | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 9:04 AM

David Taylor Jr:
If you have auto updates turned off you can still update at any time by typing "Update Now" in the command bar.

Better still, you can type 'Update Now', in the command bar and then drag and drop it onto the tool bar for ease of use. 

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 9:09 AM

Andy Evans:

David Taylor Jr:
If you have auto updates turned off you can still update at any time by typing "Update Now" in the command bar.

Better still, you can type 'Update Now', in the command bar and then drag and drop it onto the tool bar for ease of use. 

This is true.

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Bryan S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 9:16 AM

Not a bad idea... I will do that... But the real point is being missed, I know that logos 6 is an extensive program, but when you spend this much on a program you expect it to be right by that i mean the developers have tested it, put it through the paces and fixed the quirks before letting it out the door... Lets be honest if YOU had a brand new car that had to be fixed as much as this program has had to have been you would be screaming at the dealership IMHO... 

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 9:19 AM

I think what Faithlife did was to hurry to release version 6 in order to better compete with other Bible Study software companies that had already released.

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Steve Farson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 9:29 AM

What companies had already released?  I own packages from more than a few others and only one has had an update, and that was after L6.

FWIW... Have had no issues with L6 since its first iteration, don't mind the regular updates (can do other stuff in the background), and my PC is several years old/not that fast, nor is my rural internet speed.

Faithlife... Great job with L6. 

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Bryan S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 9:37 AM

Steve Farson:
 I own packages from more than a few others and only one has had an update, and that was after L6. 

Thanks for Making my point. And I never said that this isn't a great program, it is... just needed a little more love before the release...

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 9:40 AM

Starts with an 'a' and ends with an 'e'.  I had the same thought, Unix.  So many L6 trumpeted 'features' hadn't actually be completed.  So, purchasers will be blessed with mucho updates.  

 Bug-wise, I'd think pretty good for a 32>64 change.


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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 13 2014 9:40 AM

Accordance 11 October 2014, YouVersion Bible App 5 April 2014. Those are perhaps the biggest competitors.

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