FEATURE REQUEST: Reading Pane for any book

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Brother Odin | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2010 7:14 AM

It was pointed out to me that this might be the better forum for this, so I am repeating my post from here:http://community.logos.com/forums/p/9625/76411.aspx


The goal behind this request is to provide an easy way to READ our books online in a fashion that is easy for the eyes and also could improve scanning the text as we are looking for information.

I can think of two ways where this could be triggered:

1) Open a specific Window with these properties

2) Trigger this new mode for a current window by clicking a property

 

Basically, the functionality would be to remove anything that would distract us from READING and scanning the text. I want to improve the reading experience so that we could actually enjoy reading any of the hundreds of books available without many of the difficulties associated with reading on a computer screen.

I am aware that there is a full screen mode that is a good first step but it has the following problems:

1) Cannot set the Font just for this window to make it easy to read

2) Margins for the text cannot be set, so in my case with a wide screen lcd, it is a real problem to scan the text

I will update things as new things pop up, but to give people an idea of what it would actually look like. Check out this bookmarklet which does the same thing for text on the web: 

http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/

cheers!

 

-- Odin

 

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 15 2010 7:03 PM

Odin,

When I want to read a resource I open it in a floating window not in full screen reading view, then re-size the window to get the column width I want. Using the tools under the large icon to the upper left I can scale the text size to make it easier to read.

In addition, I can open my highlighting tools and add them to this floating window so I can highlight the text as I work through it.

Would this not provide most of what you are looking for?

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Bob Pritchett | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 15 2010 8:44 PM

A much improved, multi-column reading view -- with generous margins -- is on our "to-do" list.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 15 2010 8:56 PM

Bob Pritchett:
A much improved, multi-column reading view -- with generous margins -- is on our "to-do" list.

And highlighting tools accessible as well???

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Tom Blanchard | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 2:15 AM

That's pretty much what I'd like to see, Mark. Thanks!

But just how exactly do you open the highlighting tools and add them to a floating window like you did, not as a tab? Sorry, I'm a bit slow. Is this a beta feature?

 

 

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 7:04 AM

Mark A. Smith:
In addition, I can open my highlighting tools and add them to this floating window so I can highlight the text as I work through it.

That's brilliant.  Thanks for the tip, Mark!

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 7:13 AM

Bob Pritchett:

A much improved, multi-column reading view -- with generous margins -- is on our "to-do" list.

Excellent! That's good to know.

Tom Blanchard:

But just how exactly do you open the highlighting tools and add them to a floating window like you did, not as a tab? Sorry, I'm a bit slow. Is this a beta feature?

You can either grab the tab in the main Logos window and drag it to the floating window or you can drag it from the Tools menu onto the floating window.

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Bryan Brodess | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 7:17 AM

Glad someone brought this up.. I will have to try these tricks.. I find it hard to read even when "floated" Look forward to what Logos has for store in this in the future..

 

I am still not sold on giving up hard copy books yet..and would probably buy an important book I really want as a hardcopy as apposed to electronic for this reason alone..

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Bryan Brodess | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 7:19 AM

Something that would also be neat is the ability to add notes in the margins next to the text. Much like I am sure most of us do in our bibles..

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 7:32 AM

Tom Blanchard:
But just how exactly do you open the highlighting tools and add them to a floating window like you did, not as a tab?

As Kevin said, first drag the highlighting tools into the window. They will usually just show up as a tab. Now grab the small tab for the highlighters and drag it until you see a blue rectangle form on the LHS of the pane. Release it and you will have two panes side by side. Re-size them to suit your interests.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 7:36 AM

Bryan Brodess:

Something that would also be neat is the ability to add notes in the margins next to the text. Much like I am sure most of us do in our bibles..

Why not simply put it into a note?  What is it about "writing in the margins"?  Personally, I refuse to do any more than stamp my name in a book.  I think anyone writing in a book should be brought up on charges of vandalism.

george
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Bryan Brodess | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 7:44 AM

wow just did the highlight thing to a floated panel.. Awsome tool!!  Thanks Logos!!

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Bryan Brodess | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 7:46 AM

George Somsel:

Bryan Brodess:

Something that would also be neat is the ability to add notes in the margins next to the text. Much like I am sure most of us do in our bibles..

Why not simply put it into a note?  What is it about "writing in the margins"?  Personally, I refuse to do any more than stamp my name in a book.  I think anyone writing in a book should be brought up on charges of vandalism.

Because when I am reading a book nI probably do not have my note sitting with me.. It is much easier to write in the column what I want to remember next time I read that part of the book.

 

as for writing in the book. If I buy it. I probably plan on keeping it.. so why would it be vandalism..

My mother passed away 4 years ago. I still love to read her bible and the notes she made..

 

 

 

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Tom Blanchard | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 8:04 AM

Thanks, Mark. That's very cool, indeed.

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 8:07 AM

Kevin - a completely different question: How do you quote from two different posts in the same reply?

Peter

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 8:12 AM

PeterLi:

Kevin - a completely different question: How do you quote from two different posts in the same reply?

Peter

I opened up an edit box in a new tab and then copied in the second quote and added the quote user syntax around it. Watch, I'll quote myself.

Kevin Becker:

I opened up an edit box in a new tab and then copied in the second quote and added the quote user syntax around it. Watch, I'll quote myself.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 8:20 AM

George Somsel:
stamp my name in a book

Wow. Advanced technology for a Neanderthal. Then, the books are rocks and George doesn't yet have tools to write with so he is just jealous. Margin, what's a margin?? Wink

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 8:40 AM

Bryan Brodess:

George Somsel:
Why not simply put it into a note?  What is it about "writing in the margins"?  Personally, I refuse to do any more than stamp my name in a book.  I think anyone writing in a book should be brought up on charges of vandalism.

Because when I am reading a book nI probably do not have my note sitting with me.. It is much easier to write in the column what I want to remember next time I read that part of the book.

If you attach a note to a passage it puts an icon in that location.  You can save the book AND ITS NOTES in a workspace thus having the note available at all times when you are reading the book.

george
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Bryan Brodess | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 8:42 AM

George Somsel:

Bryan Brodess:

George Somsel:
Why not simply put it into a note?  What is it about "writing in the margins"?  Personally, I refuse to do any more than stamp my name in a book.  I think anyone writing in a book should be brought up on charges of vandalism.

Because when I am reading a book nI probably do not have my note sitting with me.. It is much easier to write in the column what I want to remember next time I read that part of the book.

If you attach a note to a passage it puts an icon in that location.  You can save the book AND ITS NOTES in a workspace thus having the note available at all times when you are reading the book.

 

Ah well see, Then this would certainly take care of my question :) . thanks!!

 

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2010 8:45 AM

PeterLi:

Kevin - a completely different question: How do you quote from two different posts in the same reply?

Peter

You simply copy a post or a portion thereof and insert it into a post where you are already quoting another post then bracket it with the

NAME:
and
to properly set it off -- thusly:

George Somsel:
Why not simply put it into a note?  What is it about "writing in the margins"?  Personally, I refuse to do any more than stamp my name in a book.  I think anyone writing in a book should be brought up on charges of vandalism.

george
gfsomsel

יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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