Kevin Purcell's Logos 6 Review

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Jerry Bush | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Nov 19 2014 8:30 AM

I am a big fan of Kevin's regular column in Christian Computing Magazine. His is always the first one I read and often the only thing I read in the magazine.

He did his usual wonderful writing, this time covering Logos 6:

Higher Power With Kevin

Good job Kevin!

Jerry

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Anthony H | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 8:32 AM

Jerry Bush:

I am a big fan of Kevin's regular column in Christian Computing Magazine. His is always the first one I read and often the only thing I read in the magazine.

He did his usual wonderful writing, this time covering Logos 6:

Higher Power With Kevin

Good job Kevin!

Jerry

Yep. Always give him a read... especially his take on tech and Logos.

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 8:35 AM

Yes

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 8:37 AM

Yes

I like how he quotes one reviewer who calls Logos the "Batmobile of Software". That made me smile. Smile

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 8:47 AM

I also enjoy his reviews.  Thanks for the heads up on the article.

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Paul Strickert | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 9:47 AM

From the review:  "...nothing new in Logos 6 that will entice users to switch from one of the above mentioned programs." 

I always enjoy reading Kevin's reviews, but this statement struck me as kind of odd.  Maybe he's right; but some of the new features convince me that Logos is serious about helping us put our large libraries to good use.  It is one thing to have all these different resources; it's quite another quickly to locate what we need.  L6 is already saving me more time on a regular basis.  In addition to new features, L6 has definitely made L5 features more useful.  It might be enough to attract new users.  But what do I know?  ;)

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Kenneth Neighoff | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 9:59 AM

Good review

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 10:01 AM

Paul Strickert:

From the review:  "...nothing new in Logos 6 that will entice users to switch from one of the above mentioned programs." 

I always enjoy reading Kevin's reviews, but this statement struck me as kind of odd.  Maybe he's right; but some of the new features convince me that Logos is serious about helping us put our large libraries to good use.  It is one thing to have all these different resources; it's quite another quickly to locate what we need.  L6 is already saving me more time on a regular basis.  In addition to new features, L6 has definitely made L5 features more useful.  It might be enough to attract new users.  But what do I know?  ;)

i think you are on the money.  Perhaps some won't but i like the features and refinement, you do, and others might as well. Perhaps he made too definitive of a statement, but that makes for good reading and energetic responses!.  As for features, i think Psalms tool is pretty cool, for one.

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Bryan S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 10:04 AM

Great review...

He mentioned being able to send a book to kindle to read. First How? Second, can you do the opposite with kindle or Amazon books?

Thanks for any help

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 10:07 AM

Paul Strickert:

From the review:  "...nothing new in Logos 6 that will entice users to switch from one of the above mentioned programs." 

I always enjoy reading Kevin's reviews, but this statement struck me as kind of odd.  Maybe he's right; but some of the new features convince me that Logos is serious about helping us put our large libraries to good use.  It is one thing to have all these different resources; it's quite another quickly to locate what we need.  L6 is already saving me more time on a regular basis.  In addition to new features, L6 has definitely made L5 features more useful.  It might be enough to attract new users.  But what do I know?  ;)

I don't have L6 yet, but from what I've learned about it I think Kevin is correct.  It's like a new car model with redesigned fenders (think tail fins) and some added chrome to jazz it up.  There are only a few items such as Weights and Measures and new maps that I find particularly interesting. 

POLL:  How long before Logos once again changes the company name?  Also, that new logo is really lame.

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Paul Strickert | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 10:14 AM

Of course, in the next sentence, Kevin concludes that "all Logos owners should upgrade."  So, I doubt he thinks L6 is just L5 with some added chrome.   :)

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 10:17 AM

Paul Strickert:

Of course, in the next sentence, Kevin concludes that "all Logos owners should upgrade."  So, I doubt he thinks L6 is just L5 with some added chrome.   :)

It would be nice If they were to transform it into a BMW, Ferrari or (dare I hope?) a Bugatti Veyron.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 10:58 AM

There are some things Kevin didn't mention that I think are powerful additions to L6 (I am sure he could have mentioned these if he had more space):

1. Searching is much faster. I don't have benchmarks to compare to, but it seems quite fast now.

2. We have lots of new search capabilities: Milestone searching, label searching, speaker searching, and others. I am not a big fan of Inline searching, but Everything search is nice and so is the new Media search.

3. Curated resources. Logos is adding tagging to Journals and Sermons (at least) allowing us to better discover the resources we are probably looking for.

4. Improvements to notes. Thank you for the spell checker. Multiple insertion points is really helpful.

5. Propositional outlines looks like it is going to be very useful.

6. The Textual variants and Ancient literature sections of the guides are great additions.

7. Logos has added some data I cannot claim to understand but I am sure some folks will find it indispensable: Case Frames and Clause Participants.

8. We can synch personal books between computers.

L6 does not have a single killer new feature (like morph searching and syntax searching were). It has a bundle of new, smaller features that lay people through seminary professors ought to find useful.

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Kevin Maples | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 11:26 AM

Bryan Strickland:
First How?
It's explained here: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/92620.aspx

Bryan Strickland:
Second, can you do the opposite with kindle or Amazon books?
The short answer is no. Technically, if you want to violate the Amazon license and go to a lot of trouble you can make a PB in Logos. I don't recommend it.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 19 2014 11:44 AM

Bryan Strickland:
He mentioned being able to send a book to kindle to read. First How? Second, can you do the opposite with kindle or Amazon books?

Thread => Logos 6 Release Notes includes:

Send to Kindle

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/92620.aspx

The Send to Kindle feature is now available for all users. A kindle.com email address must be assigned to the account by entering “set kindle to #####@kindle.com” into the command box.

  • Note: Users cannot unlink their Kindle account once it has been linked. Please be sure to check your kindle.com address carefully before submitting.
  • The Send to Kindle email address must end in kindle.com. You can check the address at Amazon.com > Manage Your Content and Devices > Your Devices.
  • Also, you must add “noreply@logos.com” to your Approved Personal Document Email List at Amazon.com > Manage Your Content and Devices > Settings.

Kindle Store Terms includes Kindle Content usage => http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201014950

Thankful for Vyrso eBooks working in Logos Bible Software => https://vyrso.com/   17,267 now available.  Thankful for 891 free Vyrso eBooks since Thanksgiving 2011 plus many Vyrso daily deals.

Thankful for personal books; wiki has => https://wiki.logos.com/Personal_Books

George Somsel:

Paul Strickert:

Of course, in the next sentence, Kevin concludes that "all Logos owners should upgrade."  So, I doubt he thinks L6 is just L5 with some added chrome.   :)

It would be nice If they were to transform it into a BMW, Ferrari or (dare I hope?) a Bugatti Veyron.

Thread => Logos 6 Release Notes also includes:

Check out some great videos exploring the new features in Logos 6!

Under the hood, a Bugatti Veyron has a pair of V-8 engines bolted together for V-16 power.  Under the Logos 6 chrome restyling is a 64 bit application, which allows for more hardware utilization on newer 64 bit operating systems.  The massive resource update in Oct 2014 included additional tagging in resources for use in Logos 6; personally still learning expanded search capabilities in Logos 6 => Summary of Search Improvements and Syntax in Logos/Verbum 6  By way of comparison, Logos 5 had 32 bit limitations.

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 20 2014 8:37 AM

Jerry Bush:

I am a big fan of Kevin's regular column in Christian Computing Magazine. His is always the first one I read and often the only thing I read in the magazine.

He did his usual wonderful writing, this time covering Logos 6:

Higher Power With Kevin

Good job Kevin!

Jerry

Kevin is always practical and helpful.  Very good.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 20 2014 9:35 AM

Thanks for the Kudos. I'm not able to be on hand here on daily basis as I used to since ministry and writing take up so much more time than they used to.

I appreciate the encouragement and would like to respond to a few things.

1st - My point about owners of other programs shouldn't switch just for Logos 6, what I meant and maybe should have said more clearly is that people who have heavily invested in a powerful program like Accordance, Wordsearch, Bibleworks and even PC Study Bible can't afford Logos 6 and there's nothing new in 6 that makes it a must switch. That's not saying that the improvements are good. As I said, ALL 5 owners should update. But few can afford to own two powerful suits and once heavily invested, another program will have to really offer a TON before someone can afford to leave behind hundreds to thousands of dollars of resources. Most people don't have time or the inclination to learn to powerful packages like some of us Bible software geeks do.

2nd - I didn't intend for this to be a full review but more a list of my favorite updates and features that make it worth the upgrade. Logos 6 is the kind of program that would take all 12 of my year's worth of columns to give Logos 6 an in depth review. So that was my goal and I think I hit it. Hope so anyway.

Again, thanks for the kind words. I'm primarily a Logos user although I have Accordance, Olive Tree Wordsearch, Laridian, e-Sword, PC Study Bible and Bible Glo all installed on this machine right now. If someone told me I could only own one Bible program and offered to buy out my library on all of the others I'd keep Logos and sell off the others, although I can't because most of those others were given to me and not purchased. In fact, Logos has never given me a single book free that's not available to all others and I still choose to use it first.

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Paul Strickert | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 20 2014 9:41 AM

Makes good sense, Kevin.  Thanks.  I also enjoyed the Theotek interview with Sean Boisen (despite a couple of glitches on Sean's side).   :) 

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 20 2014 9:43 AM

Thanks Paul.

I hope you come back and watch/listen again to other episodes. This week we're going to have someone from Pro Church Tools talking about training media volunteers to create great visuals for worship.

www.theotek.com

we're on itunes and stitcher as well as Youtube.

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