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NNic | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Dec 10 2014 1:15 PM

Does Logos have plans to produce a fully referenced version of the Bible?

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 1:27 PM

Please elaborate what is desired for a "fully referenced" version of the Bible?  What references are desired?

Logos Bible Software can quickly search for Bible references.  Logos 6 added Milestone searching so can find subjects within commentaries.

Harmony resources have Allusions and Quotes between Old and New Testaments.

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NNic | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 1:29 PM

What I mean is a Cross Reference Bible

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NNic | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 1:32 PM

For instance I have a NIV Cross Reference Bible and the cross referencing system is extremely helpful. 

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NNic | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 1:39 PM

Of the 20 or so electronic Bibles I have in my Logos Library, none have a functional cross referencing system where the Bible text is supplemented by a centre-column of references which direct the reader to further passages that expand and clarify or reinforce the meaning of the verses being read.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 1:52 PM

I just checked... The NIV 2011 has all it;s cross references, ESV same, NAB:RE has it's less robust references fully intact too... Even the NASB has it;s full cross references there as well... Which translation are you referring to missing their cross reference systems???

-Dan

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 2:04 PM

I understand that you're missing having cross references all in one place in a central column, but that makes more sense for a print-edition Bible. The cross-references are available just in a different way than what you're used to.

Try turning on Power Lookup (on the Tools menu). You'll find all the cross-references there, including the actual biblical text from each of those verses:

I know that the NIV Study Bible contains more cross-references (the print edition has them in a center column) than the standard edition of the NIV (which has them in footnotes), and I've wished for Logos to produce the NIV Study Bible, but so far they haven't.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 2:09 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Harmony resources have Allusions and Quotes between Old and New Testaments.

All Base Packages include many Harmony resources => https://www.logos.com/basepackages

Faithlife group "OT Quotes in NT" has note files, which can be freely copied.  Thread => https://community.logos.com/forums/t/76604.aspx

Norman Nicoll:

Of the 20 or so electronic Bibles I have in my Logos Library, none have a functional cross referencing system where the Bible text is supplemented by a centre-column of references which direct the reader to further passages that expand and clarify or reinforce the meaning of the verses being read.

Logos.com also has Cross Reference resources:

Treasury of Scripture Knowledge => https://www.logos.com/product/38877/the-treasury-of-scripture-knowledge is included in many base packages.

New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge => https://community.logos.com/forums/t/76604.aspx

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NNic | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 2:10 PM

Thanks Rosie for your ;post. Very helpful as usual.

Just before you posted I came across the Todays NIV and the NIV which have all the cross references I am looking for.

Many thanks 

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NNic | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 10 2014 2:13 PM

Hi Dan ESV doesn't have the detail of Todays NIV or as you mention, the NIV 2011. Nor does the NASB as far as I can ascertain.

I think Rosie's pinned it for me. But many thanks for your response

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NNic | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 8 2015 2:16 PM

Rosie

Is it possible to copy and paste Biblical Hebrew transliteration to a Word Document. I currently have Logos 5?

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Justin Gatlin | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 8 2015 2:38 PM

Norman Nicoll:

Rosie

Is it possible to copy and paste Biblical Hebrew transliteration to a Word Document. I currently have Logos 5?

In the interlinear, I have a checkbox which I can select as "Manuscript (transliterated)." I can even uncheck the surface reading and be left with only the transliterated, ie: "

     14      mēʹ   ʿô·lāmʹ   hě·ḥěšêʹ·ṯiy;       ʾǎ·ḥǎrîšʹ   ʾěṯ·ʾǎp·pāqʹ  ;                 ʾěp̄·ʿě(h)ʹ  k   ǎ    yô·lē·ḏā(h)ʹ;     ʾěš·šōmʹ w ʾěš·ʾǎp̄ʹyāʹ·ḥǎḏ 

The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Is 42:14." Also, for cross references, go to Guides->New Guide Template and click "Cross References" on the left side. Name it "Cross Ref" or something, and it will now show up in your guides panel. I actually have a shortcut in my toolbar which brings up a guide that only shows cross references, for the sake of speed versus the Passage Guide. Just drag it from the guide pane over to the toolbar and it will make a shortcut.
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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 8 2015 2:43 PM

What about The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge?

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 8 2015 3:01 PM

Norman Nicoll:

Hi Dan ESV doesn't have the detail of Todays NIV or as you mention, the NIV 2011. Nor does the NASB as far as I can ascertain.

I think Rosie's pinned it for me. But many thanks for your response

I only just noticed your response. But as you see below I have different experience. I opened the Bible to the last place it was and copied things out and you see in THIS case the NIV seems the poorest. I am sure there are sections I could go which would end up favouring the NIV too. I believe all 3 claim to have over 100,000 cross references.

To you, O Lord, I call; 

jmy rock, be not deaf to me, 

lest, if you kbe silent to me, 

I become like those who lgo down to the pit. 

j See Ps. 18:2

k Ps. 35:22; 39:12; 83:1; 109:1

l Ps. 88:4; 143:7


The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Ps 28:1.

1 To You, O Lord, I call;

My arock, do not be deaf to me,

For if You bare silent to me,

I will become like those who cgo down to the pit.

a Ps 18:2

b Ps 35:22; 39:12; 83:1

c Ps 88:4; 143:7; Prov 1:12


New American Standard Bible: 1995 Update (LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation, 1995), Ps 28:1.

To you, Lord, I call; 

you are my Rock, 

do not turn a deaf earb to me. 

For if you remain silent,c 

I will be like those who go down to the pit.d 

See Dt 1:45

c See Est 4:14

d See Job 33:18

The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Ps 28:1.

-Dan

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 8 2015 7:08 PM

Norman Nicoll:
Is it possible to copy and paste Biblical Hebrew transliteration to a Word Document. I currently have Logos 5?

Justin has explained how you can get just the transliterated text in Logos 5, and then you can copy/paste that into Word.

But there's something cool you can do in Logos 6 which might entice you to upgrade to it: the new Text Converter tool (one of many new features) lets you convert any Hebrew text to transliteration, using any of a variety of transliteration schemes, and then copy that text for use elsewhere. Here's a video of it in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X7RRXAMrek 

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 9 2015 4:26 PM

The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, already mentioned, is the best cross-reference for Bible study I know of. It's part of many packages if you don't already have it. 

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