Bug - Unable to 'Look Up' 'a priori'

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Jan 6 2015 2:20 PM

Well actually I can - just type it into the Subject field and 'three finger touch'

But within Logos ('built for the Mac from the ground up') I don't seem to be able to!

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 7 2015 2:26 PM

It worked for me from the command box "Lookup a priori". But I would not expect to see a link to look up in the context menu because it would only be recognized as a text selection of two words, not as a phrase. 

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 8 2015 1:35 AM

Francis:

It worked for me from the command box "Lookup a priori". But I would not expect to see a link to look up in the context menu because it would only be recognized as a text selection of two words, not as a phrase. 

That must be where we differ Francis because I expect programmes (that are built for the Mac from the ground up) to provide at least the functionality of the underlying system.

If the developers decide not to use the built in functions of OS X then they should provide equivalent functionality in the program itself. In any context on the screen other than in the Logos box a three finger touch on the 'phrase' produces a quick definition. Why does this not work in the Logos box?

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 8 2015 1:46 AM

I don't differ from you since I have no opinion on the matter. I only pointed out how it worked for me. I should specify that I use Windows, hence the experience is different. Perhaps others, who are more familiar with Macs, can speak more as to whether the behavior you expect is a fair expectation (and thus either a lacunae or a bug in Logos).

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 9 2015 3:25 AM

Francis:

I don't differ from you since I have no opinion on the matter. I only pointed out how it worked for me. I should specify that I use Windows, hence the experience is different. Perhaps others, who are more familiar with Macs, can speak more as to whether the behavior you expect is a fair expectation (and thus either a lacunae or a bug in Logos).

Thanks for responding Francis. My point was that we differ in expectations rather than opinions.

Built into the Mac operating system is a facility whereby if you place the cursor in a word and touch the pad with three fingers a definition of the word is is displayed. The first screenshot shows that working in the forum software.

Logos as eschewed this system for their own reasons, but the replacement is lacking in that it does not cope with examples like 'a priori'. If the company think they can do a better job than the provided system that is ok providing they actually do a better job.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 9 2015 3:57 PM

I would expect to be able to look up a priori on linguistic grounds as it is usually treated a a single lemma in English. I expect to be able to look up English lemmas.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 12 2015 6:51 AM

Mike Binks:
Logos as eschewed this system for their own reasons, but the replacement is lacking in that it does not cope with examples like 'a priori'. If the company think they can do a better job than the provided system that is ok providing they actually do a better job.

There's a long-standing request to be able to look-up phrases: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/20587.aspx 

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 12 2015 7:04 AM

Thanks Mark,

Whilst looking up phrases would be a good addition to the Logos program the really frustrating issue is that the functionality is already provided by the OS but must have been 'programmed out' by the developers.

It bit me again today when (in my ignorance) I need to look up 'sensus plenior' and resorted to putting it in here in order to see this...

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 12 2015 8:35 AM

Mike Binks:
Whilst looking up phrases would be a good addition to the Logos program the really frustrating issue is that the functionality is already provided by the OS but must have been 'programmed out' by the developers.

It's not "programmed out". Because Logos always adds a huge amount of tagging/visual effects to the software, they can't use standard APIs to display that text. Without the standard APIs, these system functions can't apply.

Remember you can use the Wikipedia tool from the right-click menu for phrases in Logos.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 12 2015 9:12 AM

Mark Barnes:
It's not "programmed out". Because Logos always adds a huge amount of tagging/visual effects to the software, they can't use standard APIs to display that text.

But they can to copy and paste it?

cmdC and cmdV work ok!

Mark Barnes:
Remember you can use the Wikipedia tool from the right-click menu for phrases in Logos.

Oh aye!

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 12 2015 9:19 AM

And when it works it isn't that useful...

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 12 2015 9:38 AM

But don't you have English dictionaries in your resources? Webster and Oxford typically list expressions. 

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 12 2015 11:28 AM

Francis:
But don't you have English dictionaries in your resources? Webster and Oxford typically list expressions. 

I do and they do but not from the 'right/two-finger click menu.

It is a bit of pain having to copy and paste to get a definition that could be supplied by the built in dictionary. Confused

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