Note: I am not one who held on to "Libby" - I quickly moved to Logos 4 and considered it a major improvement. However, recent events of brought to mind some of the losses from that upgrade:
Some of these features were essentially "before their time" so that users did not use them effectively, or they had minor flaws in implementation that needed to be resolved to be truly useful, or were never "official" so that Logos did not understand how useful they were to users.
I'd like to suggest that Logos revisit each of these features (and any others that others remember) and verify that the need fulfilled by the original idea is being met in the current software. I don't want Logos dropping useful features because (a) users didn't understand how to use them or (b) because the implementation was flawed although the feature concept was solid.
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Great Suggestion MJ! I'd personally add the return of the original Sermon File Add-In, the current work around via PBB fails badly in comparison.
Frank Sauer: Great Suggestion MJ! I'd personally add the return of the original Sermon File Add-In, the current work around via PBB fails badly in comparison.
Yes. I agree with MJ in all regards. I also kept Libronix just to use some of these features MJ refers to. Also, I agree with Frank. The sermon builder in Libronix was way superior to the current one.
MJ. Smith: I'd like to suggest that Logos revisit each of these features (and any others that others remember) and verify that the need fulfilled by the original idea is being met in the current software. I don't want Logos dropping useful features because (a) users didn't understand how to use them or (b) because the implementation was flawed although the feature concept was solid.
What feature is this?
fixed names on PB's so that one could create and share an index for multi-part PB's
In L3, the name of the shared PB was fixed. This meant that I could incrementally release segments of my creed collection, but provide an index that contained them all. Creating and organizing a large collection of creeds has proved problematic in L4-6. If I create a composite document in Word which is necessary to keep the .docx file manageable, the .docx file does not work in the PB compiler. If I split into a small number of files and combine them via the compiler, there is no way to build an appropriate index.
MJ. Smith:I'd like to suggest that Logos revisit each of these features (and any others that others remember) and verify that the need fulfilled by the original idea is being met in the current software.
I have often wondered why some of these features were dropped in the first place.
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Fuzzy search is the one I miss the most.
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Yes please! I really miss this...
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Rosie Perera: Fuzzy search is the one I miss the most.
Rosie, I actually forgot about this one since it is not in Logos4/5/6. I used it a lot in Libronix. I also vote to have it again.
Sarel Slabbert: Rosie Perera: Fuzzy search is the one I miss the most. Rosie, I actually forgot about this one since it is not in Logos4/5/6. I used it a lot in Libronix. I also vote to have it again.
Go vote for it on UserVoice if you haven't yet.
http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6/suggestions/510241-bring-back-topic-search-and-fuzzy-search
In 2011, Bob Pritchett posted a comment on that suggestion: "We anticipate bringing back fuzzy search as well. I’m sorry, but no date is available yet." Well, come on. "No date" shouldn't mean pushed off indefinitely. Four years is long enough to wait. I hope it is something they are actually working on already.
A bit on a (related) tangent, those who still use Libronix must be quite glad they actually own it and did not just subscribe to it (if it had been an available option to indulge a bit of a back to the future scenario). Is there any reason not to think that other features that some people appreciate could not be abandoned in the future? Just one more factor in the decision-making process...
Rosie Perera: Sarel Slabbert: Rosie Perera: Fuzzy search is the one I miss the most. Rosie, I actually forgot about this one since it is not in Logos4/5/6. I used it a lot in Libronix. I also vote to have it again. Go vote for it on UserVoice if you haven't yet. http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6/suggestions/510241-bring-back-topic-search-and-fuzzy-search In 2011, Bob Pritchett posted a comment on that suggestion: "We anticipate bringing back fuzzy search as well. I’m sorry, but no date is available yet." Well, come on. "No date" shouldn't mean pushed off indefinitely. Four years is long enough to wait. I hope it is something they are actually working on already.
VOTED!!!
Here's another Libronix feature that's no longer in Logos, from an old thread that someone just resurrected:
I'd forgotten about that one.
MJ. Smith: Note: I am not one who held on to "Libby" - I quickly moved to Logos 4 and considered it a major improvement. However, recent events of brought to mind some of the losses from that upgrade: regular expression support in Search "fuzzy" /visual search verb river autoload of sermons into sermons.logos.com ability to create one's own timelines fixed names on PB's so that one could create and share an index for multi-part PB's the Lesson Builder program Some of these features were essentially "before their time" so that users did not use them effectively, or they had minor flaws in implementation that needed to be resolved to be truly useful, or were never "official" so that Logos did not understand how useful they were to users. I'd like to suggest that Logos revisit each of these features (and any others that others remember) and verify that the need fulfilled by the original idea is being met in the current software. I don't want Logos dropping useful features because (a) users didn't understand how to use them or (b) because the implementation was flawed although the feature concept was solid.
Rick,
this promise, as far as I recall, only ever was made for resources, not functionality.
However, one needs to take into account that the switchover from Libronix to Logos 4 was a full rewrite of the whole program (from the most basic display functionality upwards), which is something that hasn't happened in all releases since then and is not likely to occur soon. The current philosophy with small incremental changes being released via the Logos Now membership subscription further reduces the chance of major disruptions in functionality.
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NB.Mick: Rick, this promise, as far as I recall, only ever was made for resources, not functionality. However, one needs to take into account that the switchover from Libronix to Logos 4 was a full rewrite of the whole program (from the most basic display functionality upwards), which is something that hasn't happened in all releases since then and is not likely to occur soon. The current philosophy with small incremental changes being released via the Logos Now membership subscription further reduces the chance of major disruptions in functionality.