NIV Zondervan Study Bible on Pre-Pub

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Kenute P. Curry | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 25 2015 7:54 PM

Thanks alabama24  I checked and do have the NIV 2011, so all I do need is the notes.

How do i cancel this pre pub order ? 

I want to pre pub just the NIV Study Bible notes.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 25 2015 8:18 PM

Your order should show up on your logos.com orders page on the Open Pre-pubs tab. You can delete the order there.

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Kenute P. Curry | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 25 2015 8:20 PM

Thank you Mark Smith I already found that out. So I cancelled my order and just ordered the NIV Study Bible notes. Thanks again.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 25 2015 9:35 PM

Kenute P. Curry:
I cancelled my order and just ordered the NIV Study Bible notes.

That is what I did.

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Diego Lara | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 25 2015 10:44 PM

This looks like its going to be a great study bible. The same images look awesome. I pre-ordered the Logos Notes only since I already have the NIV 2011 on my account and pre-ordered the actual physical book from Amazon. I like to read the actual books every now and then when I am home :).

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2015 2:36 AM

DBailey:

I've been waiting for this since 2010!

The current PrePub is a completely new NIV Study Bible that - as far as I have read about it so far - only shares the name and the publisher with the previous version.

If you are interested in having the highly regarded pre-2015 NIV Study Bible in Logos, your only option is to buy the slightly Lutheranized  https://www.logos.com/product/21069/concordia-self-study-bible (best buy is in a bundle with the self-study commentary, differences of this resource to the NIV SB are discussed in a Faithlife group).

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2015 2:52 AM

NB.Mick:
differences of this resource to the NIV SB are discussed in a Faithlife group

Do you happen to know what Faithlife group?

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2015 4:21 AM

Rosie Perera:

NB.Mick:
differences of this resource to the NIV SB are discussed in a Faithlife group

Do you happen to know what Faithlife group?

I do happen - but the 'discussion' is so far relatively unidirectional: https://faithlife.com/concordia-self-study-bible-users/activity It would be more precise to characterize it as a documentation of the NIV SB / CSSB differences in Community Notes.

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John Kight | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2015 5:30 AM

Kenute P. Curry:
The NIV Zondervan Study Bible Notes is designed for use with the 2011 New International Version text.

While the Study Notes may be designed to for the NIV11 text it doesn't necessarily mean that the notes will support or advocate for the NIV11 rendering of the text. Simply reviewing the editors and contributors to the Study Notes should provide you with such confidence.

Also, here is a link if you would like a sample text to review before making your decision http://www.thenivbible.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/NIV-Zondervan-Study-Sampler.pdf 

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BriM | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2015 7:27 AM

Will it work with the anglicised NIV 2011 or will an anglicised version of the study notes be forthcoming?

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John Kight | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2015 7:31 AM

BriM:
Will it work with the anglicised NIV 2011

It will work with any translation you desire, but the notes will be based upon the NIV11 text.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2015 1:44 PM

BriM:

Will it work with the anglicised NIV 2011 or will an anglicised version of the study notes be forthcoming?

As John indicated, it will work with any translation. The notes are a separate resource, as is the case with most "study bible" resources within Logos. In the screen shot below, I have the ESV study bible open with the NIV11.

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 1 2015 12:53 PM

Is this an update to the NIV Study Bible or is this completely new?

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LaRosa Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 1 2015 12:57 PM

completely new

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 1 2015 8:10 PM

Mark Smith, I am surprised to see DA Carson edited.  What a shame they played so much with inclusive language...dealbreaker for me.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 2 2015 12:01 AM

JoshInRI:

Mark Smith, I am surprised to see DA Carson edited.  What a shame they played so much with inclusive language...dealbreaker for me.

That is fair enough one must remember the KJV was far more inclusive than the RSV or the NIV was. I personally prefer the NRSV for public worship and while a more literal version like the NASB or ESV are good and important for study, in the end language has changed a lot... I am not 100% sure of your age but I would bet over your life you have heard many changes. You would almost certainly not use the word bothers to describe a mixed group in front of you even though I have heard sermons preached from the 60s and 70s and even 80s that used that. I am not saying the NIV2011 or the NRSV have the best translation always, indeed I do not think there is any perfect translation. I even had one pastor in the late 80s / early 90s who only used 1978 NIV, he saw no value in the 1984 revision (I do own a 1978 in print that i got as a prize in sunday school). If you have access to the original EBC you can see in John how already in the 1984 it was moving to more inclusive language. Many volumes of the Pillar are based on the TNIV which was chosen because of it's inclusive language. I know many people who do not care for inclusive language who love the Pillar commentaries. The new Zondervan Study Bible is based on the NIV2011 but as Alabama pointed out you may use it with any language and I would think as in the original NIV Study Bible sometimes alternative translations are offered in the study notes, this may well have authors who disagree with a translation and states something like "People: translation of the the greek term for men and in the context of this speech it is almost certainly an all male audience and should have been left as men" I have seen a note similar to this in other study Bibles and would be shocked to see differences in translation judgements which might include the inclusive language as the hypothetical above example shows. As one who uses the the New interpreter's Bible a lot with the NRSV NIV84 used as the base translations I have seen numerous examples where one or the other had used a poor choice of words and the other was more literal.

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LaRosa Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 16 2015 11:14 AM

Would someone from Faithlife be able to answer this question: will the ZSB with NIV include a version of the NIV with the same footnotes & cross references that are used in the ZSB's version of the NIV?

I ask because the cross references are different than the ones in a standard NIV Bible.

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