New Feature: Before and After (Vol 2)

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Jacob Cerone | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jun 29 2015 8:11 AM

What is it?

Compare modern archaeological sites with reconstructions of what they looked like in ancient times.

How does it work?

The Before and After tool presents pictures of modern archaeological sites and lets you turn back time by laying over crisp renderings of sites in their ancient glory. As you examine an archaeological image, you can pull the shade over the image to reveal our artist’s reconstruction. See the walls of Jericho, the streets of Corinth, the theaters of Ephesus, and the gates of Jerusalem as biblical characters would have. The second volume includes before-and-after images of Ephesus Odeon, the Altar of Zeus in Pergamum, and the Temple of Artemis in Ephesus.

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 8:23 AM

When are these new features which were sent out via email this morning available?  I am not seeing these new sites, though I am a subscriber.  I tried the "update now" command.

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Jacob Cerone | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 8:28 AM

They should all be available sometime today. In my experience (which is limited), the update typically happens sometime in the afternoon Pacific Time.

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 9:24 AM

Thanks!  I just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something.

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 2:50 PM

L6 shows that I got an update to "Before and After:  Biblical Sites," and my library has finished updating, but I still only have the original six sites.  I don't have any new ones.  Does anyone else see the new sites?

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 2:53 PM

me too (missing the new), but I'm only 65% finished with the index, not sure if that matters

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 2:56 PM

same thing with the narrative character maps, I show the update, but missing the new ones

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 2:58 PM

James Taylor:

same thing with the narrative character maps, I show the update, but missing the new ones

I seem to be missing those as well!

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 2:58 PM

James Taylor:
I'm only 65% finished with the index

I'm just gonna ride out the rest of the index before I start to worry Wink

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 3:03 PM

Mine is finished, but those still don't show up.

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Angela Murashov | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 3:08 PM

Joseph Turner:

L6 shows that I got an update to "Before and After:  Biblical Sites," and my library has finished updating, but I still only have the original six sites.  I don't have any new ones.  Does anyone else see the new sites?

We are investigating this right now, and will update you once I have more information. Thank you for your patience Smile

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 4:13 PM

Joseph Turner:
Mine is finished, but those still don't show up.

Me too, and me neither

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 4:14 PM

There was some miscommunication internally. They resource IDs weren't added to the collections, so you're missing licenses to the new content. They're being added right now.

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 4:15 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):
They're being added right now.

thanks Phil

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2015 4:18 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

There was some miscommunication internally. They resource IDs weren't added to the collections, so you're missing licenses to the new content. They're being added right now.

Awesome, thanks!  They are showing up now.

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Tim Bahula | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2015 6:16 AM

Do I understand correctly that these new Before and After sites are only available to Logos Now subscribers? If so, I am not impressed. The exciting new feature in Logos 6 included only 6 sites. Seems rather meagre for the price paid to upgrade and now to find that I need a Logos Now subscription. I can understand requiring a subscription for new features like Systematic Theology Section, but to require a subscription for more Before and After sites isn't what I expected when I purchased my Logos 6 upgrade.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2015 2:27 PM

Tim Bahula:
Do I understand correctly that these new Before and After sites are only available to Logos Now subscribers? If so, I am not impressed. The exciting new feature in Logos 6 included only 6 sites. Seems rather meagre for the price paid to upgrade and now to find that I need a Logos Now subscription. I can understand requiring a subscription for new features like Systematic Theology Section, but to require a subscription for more Before and After sites isn't what I expected when I purchased my Logos 6 upgrade.

I'm sorry we didn't better set your expectations for how new content would be released. Keep in mind that you likely paid less than $2 for the Before and After Sites and less than $.60 for the Narrative Character Maps.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2015 2:47 PM

Tim, I am with you.  Personally how Logos does business now is beyond comprehension.  I feel like everything that used to be free or part of the package you bought is being parceled out and paid for differently.  Have an expensive base package means practically nothing now.  They even give "goodies" to people who waited that you and I will never see.  I would like a common feature like "doubleclick to pronounce this word in English/Hebrew/Greek, etc" so at a Bible study we know what its supposed to sound like.  They would probably charge for that basic functionality too if they were smart enough to finally add it.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2015 9:42 PM

JoshInRI:
I feel like everything that used to be free or part of the package you bought is being parceled out and paid for differently.

That's not the case. It's always been the case that you get the resources that are included in your base package and that new resources are an additional purchase. We don't really even have the ability to modify collections to add additional resources that weren't in there at the point of purchase without create a host of headaches and problems.

What's new is that this additional content, and eventually free features, are being made available early via subscription. You used to have to wait to purchase these as part of the next major release of the software. Now you can enjoy them as we make them instead of waiting. That's what's changed.

JoshInRI:
I would like a common feature like "doubleclick to pronounce this word in English/Hebrew/Greek, etc" so at a Bible study we know what its supposed to sound like.

We've had Greek pronunciations for quite some time (Logos 3 in 2006?). We added more in Logos 6. We also added English pronunciations to Logos 6. We shipped Hebrew pronunciations off Pre-Pub a few months before Logos 6 shipped, so we didn't include them in Logos 6 (in an effort to protect the investment of everyone who got them through Pre-Pub). They're available from the context menu and various places throughout the app.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2015 11:21 PM
Thanks Sir I got the feature I noticed. Same useless 6 unimpressive pictures that came with my upgrade. sigh.
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