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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Aug 7 2015 12:42 PM

The New Jerusalem Bible: The Complete Text of the Ancient Canon of the Scriptures

Just up on Pre-Pub... one of the best translations out there I have wanted the full notes edition for a long time... I can not be the only one who wants this.

-Dan

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 7 2015 12:55 PM

One more thing.... unlike our readers edition, this one has no restrictions listed so I am guessing all our non North American friends can purchase it finally.

-Dan

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Louis St. Hilaire | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 7 2015 1:25 PM

Dan Francis:
One more thing.... unlike our readers edition, this one has no restrictions listed so I am guessing all our non North American friends can purchase it finally.

I hate to bring bad news, but I'm pretty sure this is a mistake. (Crown only manages North American rights, so I don't think we have international rights yet.)

Sorry.

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Kendall Sholtess | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 8 2015 4:49 AM

 Well, Dan, I guess we'll just have to move to America and establish residency to get it. Sad

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 8 2015 10:18 AM

Kendall Sholtess:

 Well, Dan, I guess we'll just have to move to America and establish residency to get it. Sad

Yes and no... in the past if one preorders things not saleable to your country orders have been honoured of those who preordered it before it got tagged as not for sale to them. I have purchased a book that was only suppose to be for Europe and Australia because I ordered it when it was mistakenly listed as for sale only in North America. And I also got the CCC when Logos only had rights for the US only, since then they have got rights for north america. So often times preorders made before restrictions are clearly in place will be honoured. Worse case scenario you get an email telling you you can not get it, so give it a try.

-Dan

EDIT: Residency restrictions have now been noted on the Bible to North America, sorry if you read this and got your hopes up... Sad

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P A | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 8 2015 11:06 AM

I am saying nothing Zip it! Sad

P A

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 8 2015 11:11 AM

Dan Francis:
so give it a try.

I ordered this about ten minutes before your edit (overstrike), and looks like it worked.

But I am open, if they don't sell it to me, just fine.

On the other hand, these sanctions sound ridiculous for me, why the high level Christian business managers cannot find global agreements?

I've been working in many countries and studied in US - so knowing what I can buy where and and what I am allowed to use in each location would be impossible to follow (although what I should forget in each specific country is easier because I am in the process of losing my memory, I'll forget everything anyway Smile ) .

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JohnB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 8 2015 12:03 PM

What intrigues me is that I can usually buy those same books from Amazon.com although I live in the UK. The only restriction is that i can only buy one copy!
It is sad that Logos can not have a similar agreement with the publishers.

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Gordon Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 9 2015 4:26 AM

I pre-ordered this resource quite soon after it was put up on the Logos website. I'm in Scotland and my pre-order is still showing as valid.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 9 2015 4:58 AM

Veli Voipio:

On the other hand, these sanctions sound ridiculous for me, why the high level Christian business managers cannot find global agreements?

THEY [and yes, there are more then one of them] have divided the world into 'sections' most likely to manage hard copy sales and distribution.  Then, Oops, along comes world wide e-users.  And some of the THEY are BIG.  

[Does it work if you rent a post office box in the US to give your self a US address for a credit card?  

The credit card company may need to know that you really live on the moon but do the people that get paid by that post office box credit card?]  

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 19 2015 12:14 PM

Available for preorder for over a week and still not under contract???? This is outrageous... But mockery aside this is one of the most important translations of the 20th century. Many of you may well have the readers edition of NJB in your Libraries but to give you an idea for those of you not familiar with it. Imagine the NIV Study Bible was published first and the the translation was excised out of it with the bare minimal notes.

This is the full text:

1 At many moments in the past and by many means, God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets; 2 but in our time, the final days, a he has spoken to us in the person of his Son, b whom he appointed heir of all things c and through whom he made the ages. d 3 He is the reflection of God’s glory and bears the impress of God’s own being, e sustaining all things by his powerful command; and now that he has purged sins away, he has taken his seat at the right hand of the divine Majesty on high. 4 So he is now as far above the angels as the title which he has inherited is higher than their own name. 

  a. In the fullness of time, Mk 1:15; Ga 4:4c, the last times or the last days begin, Ac 2:17; 1 P 1:20. 
  b. After the prophets, God sends an envoy who is no longer a mere messenger like the others; he is ‘Son’, cf. Mk 12:2-6; Rm 1:4c, he is even the Word, Jn 1:1a, 14m. 
  c. To be a son implies having the right to inherit, cf. Mt 21:38, Ga 4:7. Here, however, God is credited with the handing over of the whole creation because the inheritance in question is messianic and eschatological. 
  d. Hebraism for the whole of creation. 
  e. These two metaphors are borrowed from the sophia and logos theologies of Alexandria, Ws 7:25-26; they express both the identity of nature between Father and Son, and the distinction of persons. The Son is the brightness, the light shining from its source, which is the bright glory, see Ex 24:16f, of the Father (‘Light from Light’). He is also the replica, see Col 1:15d, of the Father’s substance, like an exact impression made by a seal on clay or wax, cf. Jn 14:9.

This is what the readers version we currently own in Logos provides:

At many moments in the past and by many means, God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets; but 2 in our time, the final days, he has spoken to us in the person of his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things and through whom he made the ages. 3 He is the reflection of God’s glory and bears the impress of God’s own being, *  sustaining all things by his powerful command; and now that he has purged sins away, he has taken his seat at the right hand of the divine Majesty on high. 4 So he is now as far above the angels as the title which he has inherited is higher than their own name. 

* cf. Ws 7:25–26.

 The New Jerusalem Bible (New York: Doubleday, 1985), Heb 1:1–4.

This is an invaluable work that every scholar of the Bible should want in their library. For $15.99 it is one of the greatest bargains you will find in the Logos world. Please consider ordering it to help bring this work in it's  fullness to Logos. 

-Dan

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 21 2015 8:08 PM

I would like to know whether the notes will be published as a separate resource. They look about as substantial as some commentaries.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 30 2015 9:41 AM

BUMP

It is substantial as some commentaries for sure.

-Dan

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 30 2015 12:30 PM

SineNomine:

I would like to know whether the notes will be published as a separate resource. They look about as substantial as some commentaries.

Let me rephrase:

Faithlife, will the notes to this Bible be available as a separate resource? This matters a great deal as to whether I will order it.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 17 2015 11:00 AM

SineNomine I am sorry I have no idea....

BUMP!!!!

-Dan

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Kyle G. Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 17 2015 12:27 PM

We are still deciding. There are some technical considerations we are evaluating. We should know in a couple of days once we have all the data.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 19 2015 2:59 PM

Kyle G. Anderson:
We are still deciding. There are some technical considerations we are evaluating. We should know in a couple of days once we have all the data.

Thanks for the update!

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 25 2015 9:37 AM

Kyle G. Anderson:

We are still deciding. There are some technical considerations we are evaluating. We should know in a couple of days once we have all the data.

Still deciding? If yes, that's ok.

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Louis St. Hilaire | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 25 2015 1:32 PM

SineNomine:
Still deciding? If yes, that's ok.

Yeah. We're hoping to have answer next week.

Thanks for your patience.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2015 7:19 PM

Louis St. Hilaire:

SineNomine:
Still deciding? If yes, that's ok.

Yeah. We're hoping to have answer next week.

Thanks for your patience.

You're welcome. Do you have the answer yet? I can be more patient.

I have now pre-ordered, but if it ends up being a No, I will cancel. If the notes are not going to show up in the Commentaries section of the Passage Guide, I know that I won't end up using them.

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