Is there a video for a morph or syntax search for Logos 4? I can't find one!

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Ron Christensen | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Feb 10 2010 6:35 PM

I want to do some searches and am new to Logos 4. But its a "general" search. Nothing really specific, but for some reason I don't know how to do it?

 

I just want to find a sentence/clause that contains a feminine noun (any noun!) with a periphrastic masculine  with a masculine noun and then a demonstrative pronoun. I.E. Eph. 2 8.

 

But I don't know how to do it!  Help!

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 10 2010 6:58 PM

You can't procure Eph 2:8 with a syntax search and all your criteria simply because the και divides the phrase into two clauses. Syntax searching can only look inside one clause. You could go for the Fem noun before a periphrastic masc construction. This search, while a little rough turns up 7 hits (it's late, I didn't have time to refine, but it's a start)

Constructing a morph search would be just stringing all your criteria together with BEFORE

@N??F BEFORE lemma:εἰμί BEFORE @V??P???M BEFORE @RD turns up 5 verses (I left out the masc noun because it wouldn't necessarily be after the participle). If you replace BEFORE with AND you will increase false hits but might turn up something were word order varies.

Hope this helps.

I recommend reading these threads to help you understand syntax searching better.

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/6312.aspx

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/8109.aspx

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/9154.aspx

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/8872.aspx

 

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 10 2010 7:00 PM

Ron,

You might check the videos Dr. Mike Heiser of Logos has done on syntactical searching. Look here: http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Video_Tutorials

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Ron Christensen | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 10 2010 7:06 PM

Thank you SO MUCH.

 

I was looking for videos but for some reason couldn't find one.

 

God bless you...

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Ron Christensen | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 10 2010 7:10 PM

Kevin,

Thank you very much. That will help me out quite a bit. I thought I had to put in words instead of just leaving it blank before the "@"... that will help me out allot.

 

LOL ... since I have you smart guys here... I hate looking up greek words by typing in the "g:eimi" instead of just typing in the Greek.... in logos 3 I could just change my language and type it in.  Is there a way that I can still type in the Greek language?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 10 2010 10:19 PM

Kevin Becker:
You can't procure Eph 2:8 with a syntax search and all your criteria simply because the και divides the phrase into two clauses.

You can specify multiple clauses and "procure" Eph 2:8 but it appears to be the only solution ie. within the one clause you can specify another clause function with a pronoun but it is not demonstrative  (Lk 4.20, 24.13 and Act 10.30)

 

 

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 11 2010 3:22 AM

Ron Christensen:

LOL ... since I have you smart guys here... I hate looking up greek words by typing in the "g:eimi" instead of just typing in the Greek.... in logos 3 I could just change my language and type it in.  Is there a way that I can still type in the Greek language?

You will need to install these http://www.logos.com/support/downloads/keyboards and then use Shift+Alt to toggle between keyboards. It's better than Libronix's F2 because you can use them in any program.

Dave Hooton:
You can specify multiple clauses and "procure" Eph 2:8 but it appears to be the only solution ie. within the one clause you can specify another clause function with a pronoun but it is not demonstrative  (Lk 4.20, 24.13 and Act 10.30)

Thanks Dave, learned something new!

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