Suggestions: Multiple Resources Additions
I am not sure if any of these have been suggested or thought about at Faithlife, so I shall suggest them anyway.
First of all, I love the potential of Multiple Resources. I love the idea of having one main source and many others tied with it as one resource. But, there are some things I am wanting to do with Multiple Resources that does not seem too easy to do.
What I am wanting to do is tie series together. So, for example, perhaps I would like in my first panel, as my main resource, the Word Biblical Commentary. Tied to it I would like the NICOT/NICNT, Anchor Yale Bible, and the International Critical Commentary series. So all I have to do is tie one of each of the series and when I type go from Genesis 12:15 to Matthew 16:18 all of the other resources follow with. That would be great! Either it does that automatically in the background, or, when selecting series, I can search for WBC and it shows up as a dropdown list. I can either select WBC, or use the dropdown list to select the ones I want, and I would be able to do that for any series. This would also be great with dictionary series, such as the IVP Dictionary of the Old Testament: Pentateuch, Historical Books, Wisdom Books, Prophets and the New Testament side. Now for the dictionaries/encyclopedias, each book would have their own panel so if each book as an article of the same topic (not necessarily the exact same title) they each would be show in their own panel. Of course, I'd choose one of them initially to be the resource the rest of them followed. Currently, when I try to do this, I have to select each resource...individually. After you select 4 or 5 resources, the selection takes 10-20 seconds per resource for the selection to select and move up. So, if I want to select the WBC series, I have to select all 58+ resources...individually. And 20 seconds between each selection takes a looooooong time, especially when you go from series to series to series, or dictionary to dictionary to dictionary.
Also, I am seeing Logos crash when I have multiple resources for old and new testament, so that when I go from Genesis in the Zondervan Illustrated Bible Background Commentary to John in the same, with the IVP Background commentaries connected and one other New Testament Bible Background commentary, Logos crashes. It does not like more than two resources (but that was when I had selected every one of the ZIBBC AND IVPBBC AND New Testament Bible Background). When I select just one of each (ZIBBC Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy and IVPBBCOT) and I go from Genesis 1:26 to John 1:1, the IVPBBCNT does not show up. I have to select it. But when I go back to Genesis 1:26, the IVPBBCOT does not show up. I click on Multiple Resources button and it turns out that it cleared out my selections! That is very frustrating! It makes Multiple Resources for series all but useless! I don't want to have to keep reselecting my resources when I go from one book of the bible to the next.
Now, if I select BOTH IVP Bible Background Commentaries (OT and NT) and select just one of the ZIBBC (Volume 1), it clears out both IVPBBC OT AND NT!! That is just frustrating! Therefore I HIGHLY recommend that Faithlife make Multiple Resources feature more user friendly, less buggy, less likely to crash Logos, and make it so it does NOT clear out my selections. (FYI I was making the Zondervan Illustrated Bible Backgrounds Commentary Volume 1 the resource that the IVP Bible Backgrounds Commentaries followed).
For Bible Dictionaries and Bible Encyclopedias, I think it makes sense to tie them together topically, so that even if the title is not an exact match, the article can still be shown. So if I go to the Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary or the New Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible and I have other dictionaries tied to it, the other dictionaries can show the correct article based on topic (instead of showing nothing because it isn't an exact title match).
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Caleb S. said:
What I am wanting to do is tie series together.
We've been told that might be added in the future. It is the most needed enhancement IMO.
Caleb S. said:Also, I am seeing Logos crash when I have multiple resources for old and new testament, so that when I go from Genesis in the Zondervan Illustrated Bible Background Commentary to John in the same, with the IVP Background commentaries connected and one other New Testament Bible Background commentary, Logos crashes
I just tested this in 6.7 beta. It's incredibly slow adding the IVP background volumes to the ZIBBC Genesis volume for some reason. I've reported that as a separate bug so it doesn't get lost in this thread.
Caleb S. said:Also, I am seeing Logos crash when I have multiple resources for old and new testament, so that when I go from Genesis in the Zondervan Illustrated Bible Background Commentary to John in the same,
I can't reproduce this. Can you create a new thread with the crash details, including logs?
Caleb S. said:When I select just one of each (ZIBBC Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy and IVPBBCOT) and I go from Genesis 1:26 to John 1:1, the IVPBBCNT does not show up.
This is because series don't work. So you have to attach the IVPBBCNT to the ZIBBC commentary on John, not just to Genesis.
Caleb S. said:Now, if I select BOTH IVP Bible Background Commentaries (OT and NT) and select just one of the ZIBBC (Volume 1), it clears out both IVPBBC OT AND NT!! That is just frustrating!
I can reproduce this, and have reported a bug for you. As a work around, if you close the resource after selecting the multiview resources, then re-open it, your multivew settings will stick.
Caleb S. said:For Bible Dictionaries and Bible Encyclopedias, I think it makes sense to tie them together topically, so that even if the title is not an exact match, the article can still be shown. So if I go to the Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary or the New Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible and I have other dictionaries tied to it, the other dictionaries can show the correct article based on topic (instead of showing nothing because it isn't an exact title match).
Can you give a specific example? I can see that very occasionally it doesn't work as expected, but most of the time it seems fine, even if the topics aren't an exact match.
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Mark Barnes said:Caleb S. said:
What I am wanting to do is tie series together.
We've been told that might be added in the future. It is the most needed enhancement IMO.
I think it would make Multiple Resources MUCH more useful, since then I could tie series together, instead of having copies of each book that I need open, I can just have the commentaries tied to my bible through one resource. Meaning I have my Hebrew and Greek Texts tied to an English Text with Reverse Interlinear, and in another tab I have, say for example, WBC as the primary resource with NICOT/NICNT, Anchor Yale Bible, and ICC, with WBC linked through link set A, B, C, D, E, or F. Or I can have the commentaries linked separately I just link all the commentary tabs together through link set A, B, C, D, E, or F (but not connected to the Bible tab) and just click the top commentary in Passage Guide and all the commentary tabs go to the same spot. All I have to do is select "Send Hyperlinks here" and that way I won't have 10-30 commentaries open in that many tabs.
Caleb S. said:Also, I am seeing Logos crash when I have multiple resources for old and new testament, so that when I go from Genesis in the Zondervan Illustrated Bible Background Commentary to John in the same, with the IVP Background commentaries connected and one other New Testament Bible Background commentary, Logos crashes
Mark Barnes said:I just tested this in 6.7 beta. It's incredibly slow adding the IVP background volumes to the ZIBBC Genesis volume for some reason. I've reported that as a separate bug so it doesn't get lost in this thread.
I have noticed that in another resources as well. Such as the dictionaries or other commentaries and even bibles. With how slow it is, resetting up my workspace (with how many resources I have open currently) would take several hours.
Caleb S. said:Also, I am seeing Logos crash when I have multiple resources for old and new testament, so that when I go from Genesis in the Zondervan Illustrated Bible Background Commentary to John in the same,
Mark Barnes said:I can't reproduce this. Can you create a new thread with the crash details, including logs?
Well I will try to reproduce it again. Basically what I did was select both IVP Bible Background Commentaries, every one of the Zondervan Illustrated Bible Backgrounds Commentary, and the New Testament Bible Background Commentary. I start in Genesis 1:26 and decided to go to John 1:1 to see how it would work. Logos crashed each time.
I just tried to reproduce it beginning in Matthew 16:19 and went to Genesis 1:26. The IVP went to Genesis, but cleared everything else out. It looks like I might have to have separate tabs for Old Testament and New Testament, or separate tabs for individual books of the bible, which I do not want to do.
Ok, I was trying to get the IVP Bible Background Commentary on the Old Testament to go to places in Genesis, but it remained at the Title Page whether I typed Genesis 1:26, 12:1, or 2:3, while the Zondervan Illustrated Bible Backgrounds Commentary: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy went to each passage. Next I went to John 1:1, then Logos crashed. (Just a reminder, I had all of my Bible Background commentaries selected in Multiple Resources. I will create a new thread and share the logs. I wonder if it might be because I am trying to have selected each resource together in the same tab so I can just go from each book of the bible to another).
Caleb S. said:When I select just one of each (ZIBBC Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy and IVPBBCOT) and I go from Genesis 1:26 to John 1:1, the IVPBBCNT does not show up.
Mark Barnes said:This is because series don't work. So you have to attach the IVPBBCNT to the ZIBBC commentary on John, not just to Genesis.
I suspected that to be the issue. I do not want to have a separate tab open for each book of the bible, but until they add series as a MUCH needed feature, I might have to do that to some extent. When I select more than three books of the bible in both Old and New Testament, Logos either a) clears out my selection when I go from Old to New or New to Old Testament, or it crashes Logos.
Caleb S. said:Now, if I select BOTH IVP Bible Background Commentaries (OT and NT) and select just one of the ZIBBC (Volume 1), it clears out both IVPBBC OT AND NT!! That is just frustrating!
Mark Barnes said:I can reproduce this, and have reported a bug for you. As a work around, if you close the resource after selecting the multiview resources, then re-open it, your multivew settings will stick.
That will be annoying. But, until they fix that bug, I will just have to do that. Its either that or I just have different tabs for Old Testament and New Testament. So in Tab one I have WBC, NICOT, Anchor for OT, and in tab two I have WBC, NICNT, Anchor for New Testament. But, it might just be clearing out the selections anyway. I will have to test to see if it is doing it within books of the bible (Genesis 1:26 to 30:15, etc.), from one book to another (Genesis 1:26 to Numbers 12:3), or just from Old Testament to New Testament.
Caleb S. said:For Bible Dictionaries and Bible Encyclopedias, I think it makes sense to tie them together topically, so that even if the title is not an exact match, the article can still be shown. So if I go to the Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary or the New Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible and I have other dictionaries tied to it, the other dictionaries can show the correct article based on topic (instead of showing nothing because it isn't an exact title match).
Mark Barnes said:Can you give a specific example? I can see that very occasionally it doesn't work as expected, but most of the time it seems fine, even if the topics aren't an exact match.
Hmm. Maybe it is already functioning like that and I just did not notice.
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