Linux version of Logos Bible Software

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2021 6:07 AM

My understanding of the status is this:

32bit Logos 8 is very stable. Without media playback, speech or printing.

Logos 9 is 64bit only and we weren't quite ready for it - of course that is the nature of trying to get apps working on wine.

Wine 6 still has problems we'd like to see fixed. We have some problems with indexing in 64bit. If you have a smaller library it might be ok. You will most likely need a swap file because it does use more than max ram even on 16GB systems. Obviously I don't have knowledge of under the hood changes but it appears that the indexer has gone through some improvements which broke compatibility with wine. 

There are difficulties with installing .net in wine 6. Some great work has gone on in terms of media support so people might start to have more success playing videos.

Daniel's installer is the most reliable way to get success. I get very few test submissions on winehq these days to if more people could test / report bugs that would be very useful.

I should say I was out of it for a few months, not having a PC, so others might be more up to date than me. I do have a PC now so I'm trying to catch up.

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Elliot Swaim | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 21 2021 9:00 AM

I installed Logos 9 on Ubuntu 20.04 using this method, and I got basic functionality working, but not everything is working.  Let me know if anyone has any different results.

Tools

  • Atlas causes "Program Error: This can be caused by a problem in the program or a deficiency in Wine.  You may want to check the Application Database for tips about running this application."
  • Canvas kind of works except for Insert Passage, which kind of defeats its purpose.
  • Bible Search doesn't work

Guides

  • It seems like none of the guides are working

Trying to close any of the above crashes Logos (though keeping them open is fine).

Docs

  • It looks like the docs do work

Let me know if you have anything to add or if anything that's not working for me is working for you.

Note, I've also been testing out using a virtual machine, and it works pretty well, but there are two things to keep in mind if you want to try using that for running Logos 9.  First, the Windows 10 operating system takes up about 20 GB, so if you want to install Logos in a virtual machine, you'll need an extra 20-30 GB in addition to however large your Logos data folder is.  Second, when installing Windows 10 onto a virtual machine, it will ask you for a registration code.  You can skip this step by saying that you don't have a registration code, and you can use Windows just fine without ever activating it.  However, technically, doing so goes against the Terms and Agreements.  So if you plan on using a virtual machine for Logos long term, you'll have to purchase a Windows registration key (or if you already own an old Windows 10 computer, you might be able to snatch it's registration key and use that as long as you uninstall Windows from that old computer).  Also, you would still technically be using Windows, so if you're a Linux purist or a privacy enthusiast, you might not want to use a virtual machine.  Other than that, the only performance issues I've ever had with the virtual machine was that the videos in Logos would lag, but they could also just be watched on Linus through the web app.

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Daniel Ribeiro da Silva | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 21 2021 9:53 AM

Dominik Wagner:

Hello all.
I have now tried to run LOGOS 9 on an openSUSE Leap 15.2 Linux.
Whenever it trys to start WINE during the installation I get this error message and the LOGOS setup does not start. Under Ubuntu everything works without problems.
I use the script from "github ferion11" (fast)

002c:err:module:load_so_dll failed to load .so lib "/tmp/.mount_wine64syPVNU/lib64/wine/ucrtbase.dll.so": /lib64/libm.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.27' not found (required by /tmp/.mount_wine64syPVNU/lib64/wine/ucrtbase.dll.so)
002c:err:module:import_dll Loading library ucrtbase.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\sechost.dll") failed (error c000007a).
002c:err:seh:NtRaiseException Unhandled exception code c0000005 flags 0 addr 0x7bc7e075
0024:err:module:load_so_dll failed to load .so lib "/tmp/.mount_wine64syPVNU/lib64/wine/ucrtbase.dll.so": /lib64/libm.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.27' not found (required by /tmp/.mount_wine64syPVNU/lib64/wine/ucrtbase.dll.so)
0024:err:module:import_dll Loading library ucrtbase.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\sechost.dll") failed (error c000007a).
0024:err:seh:NtRaiseException Unhandled exception code c0000005 flags 0 addr 0x7bc7e075

Maybe someone has a hint for me

Greetings Dominik

Because openSUSE Leap is still using glibc 2.26:
Why Leap 15.2 still is using glibc 2.26?

Brian Hollifield:

Good morning. I read yesterday about the release of Wine 6, how does that impact/change the status of Logos on Linux?

I did use the scripts a few months back and had it running on a system, but I was unhappy with the performance - due primarily to the horsepower of the PC - so I reverted back to the Windows version for the time being.

Thanks
Brian

Along with improvements, there are several bugs in the new versions of WINE. The new version isn't always the most compatible. Namely, many applications still work better with old versions 3.x of WINE (it's a well known fact).

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Frank Sauer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 24 2021 9:55 AM

New issue that I just experienced:

I noticed that 9.2 was released and attempted an Update Now, that didn't see an update. I then downloaded the Logos Setup and when running it, it throws an error that Windows needs to be updated to install.

Update:

The issue was having the prefix set to Win7 to allow indexing and fast load times. Switching back to Win10 allowed the update to go through with no issue. I don't recall this issue in previous versions

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 24 2021 10:13 AM

Read the guide for an update. Backup your data first. We install with windows version set to 10 but run Logos with windows version set to 7. This is due to a bug in .NET rather than wine or Logos. Updating doesn't really work. Essentially you backup your data, do a fresh install and replace your data into the new install.

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Frank Sauer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 14 2021 9:14 PM

Been playing around a little with L9 and the indexing issue is a major issue. The Win7 workaround does not work as of this time for a library with more than a small amount of resources.

The parse_url error that spams like crazy is:

0134:fixme:path:parse_url failed to parse L"Libronix.DigitalLibrary.Utility.resources"

I tried running the indexer with the LC_ALL=C command, as that had worked with a previous parse_url spamming error, but it does not seem to work the same way.

Former workarounds: As stated setting to Win7, deleting the files in the Index Folders and running Rebuild Index also seem to not work.

Rebuild Index, does set the three Index folders to 2 files each, which is in line with how it worked previously, but there is no action with the files at all - which is not in line with past action, when the indexer would complete.

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Frank Sauer | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 15 2021 7:43 AM

Update:

I'm running the Logos 9 Indexer on a system with 12 gigs of Ram and I setup a 24 gig swapfile to add significant swap resource for the process. SSD and i7 processor, so system power and resources should not be a problem - never have been on Windows, nor on any version of Linux up until very recently. Now even the overkill of system resources available is getting no movement at all and kills after eclipsing all the resources available - with no movement at all on the index files of any kind.

Maybe @BradleyGrainger can give some insight as to anything that may have changed with the LogosIndexer.exe process that we can research within the wine setup. Calling different dlls, new permissions, etc.

The fact that there is absolutely no movement on the Index files is what bothers me most - the process runs for hours at full cpu and nothing accomplished at all - at least if there was some movement with the files, we could know that the indexer was at least doing something.

This is the same under winxp, win7, win 8, win8.1 and win10 settings for the prefix in wine

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Frank Sauer | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 15 2021 5:22 PM

Working with Bradley, we were able to establish a workaround for those who also have a working Windows install.

There is an issue with the AutoComplete database not completing on the Linux install. If you have a fully indexed Windows install you can copy the two files from the AutoComplete directory into the same directory in the Logos Data wine folder.

Doing so allowed the indexer to fully complete on win with windows version set to Win10!

It also allowed the indexer to rely heavily on the CPU, rather than RAM, which is part of the problem with whatever is going on with the AutoComplete database hanging the Linux install.

My AutoComplete database file in Linux was a small fraction of the 150 MB completed Windows file.

Hopefully Bradley and the Dev team may be able to shed some light on the process in the future so we can try to locate the bug causing this in wine, since the logs seem to not give us any information useful to the devs at WineHQ

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 22 2021 10:43 AM

Update: New workaround from Linux only.

Using winecfg set LogosIndexer.exe to windows version winxp. Run the indexing. Once AutoComplete.db is finished kill the indexer. You'll see the file stop growing if you view it in a file manager. Then set windows version to win10 and run the indexer again.

I think we now understand why this happens so hopefully it won't be too long before we have it working without this extra few steps.

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