TIP of the day: Lemma searching for Hebrew

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016 7:28 PM

From wikipedia:

"In morphology and lexicography, a lemma (plural lemmas or lemmata) is the canonical form, dictionary form, or citation form of a set of words (headword). In English, for example, run, runs, ran and running are forms of the same lexeme, with run as the lemma. Lexeme, in this context, refers to the set of all the forms that have the same meaning, and lemma refers to the particular form that is chosen by convention to represent the lexeme. In lexicography, this unit is usually also the citation form or headword by which it is indexed. Lemmas have special significance in highly inflected languages such as Arabic, Turkish and Russian. The process of determining the lemma for a given word is called lemmatisation. The lemma can be viewed as the chief of the principal parts, although lemmatisation is at least partly arbitrary."

1. A typical Hebrew lemma search in Logos has a search argument of <Lemma = lbs/he/אָב> where the "lbs" indicates the Logos morphology lemma system and the "he" indicates Hebrew/Aramaic. This is usually the most productive Hebrew lemma search.

2. If I change the "lbs" to "lls" I am requesting the GRAMCORD Greek Morphology & Westminster Hebrew Morphology. This returns only one resource with this tagging:

3. If I change the "lls" to "af" for the Andersen-Forbes Morphology I get interesting results - nothing! why? because AF has two lemmas אָב and I must specify which one I mean.

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Tim Finlay | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 5 2016 4:40 PM

MJ,

That lemma in lls also has 254 results in 84 articles in Qumran Sectarian Manuscripts, for those who  have it.

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Mary-Ellen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2016 6:55 AM

At the bottom of the Wiki page on Morphology Codes is a list of the search codes for the various morphology systems:

https://wiki.logos.com/Morphology_Codes

Now how do I discover what resources use which systems?  Typically this info appears in the resource information pane, either in the narrative description or the copyright info.  I think sometimes I have had to read through resource front-matter.  Is there a consistent method to find this info?  Ideally, something I could put in a rule for a Collection?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2016 1:49 PM

What I do is run a morph search for nouns assuming that will occur in all resources with that morphology and then use the results to create a collection. Faithlife is working on exposing more of this type of information about a resource so a better method may be coming.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2016 4:01 PM

Mary-Ellen:
Now how do I discover what resources use which systems?

There are two reading lists where I tried to capture that information:

However, you can most often assume that a resource will inform about that. Basically, the usual case is that a morphology only applies to one resource/one small group of resources edited or published by the name-giver of the morphology (one AFAT Hebrew Bible, one Friberg Greek NT etc., one line of Westminster morphed OTs) while the default is Logos morphologies - clearly everything Faithlife/Lexham pubpished, all RIs etc.

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Mary-Ellen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2016 6:21 PM

Thank you both, MJ and NB.  This is very helpful information.

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Bob Diebel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 6 2019 9:03 AM

Thanx for this! Given the tremendous value of this info. it would be great to have an update on any progress Faithlife has made in this area. 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 10 2019 4:07 PM

Bob Diebel:

Thanx for this! Given the tremendous value of this info. it would be great to have an update on any progress Faithlife has made in this area. 

The General forum or Logos 8 forum would be better places for your question. You would still have to clarify the nature of "any progress" by Faithlife, Based on the above discussion, FL have not made it easier to discover the morphological system. So, use the guidelines given above and tag the resources appropriately so that you can make a Collection. Use a similar "discovery" method for reverse interlinears vs. interlinears.

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