Personnel changes at Faithlife

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 2:15 PM

I thought Logos 6 now "phones home" to get licensing info? If that's true, and if Faithlife the company exists no more, our software wouldn't be able to call home to validate licensing info. The program might still function but we won't have access to any of our resources.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm normally not concerned about the viability of Faithlife as a company. But if some of the comments on Glassdoor is indeed true - that it is internally a poorly managed company, that many employees view FL as a stepping-stone for their careers and thus the company is unable to retain good talent long-term, then I'm really concerned.

And thinking back on the various botched / amateur instances of new product rollout (e.g. Logos 4), server meltdowns, out-of-control over-zealous marketing / sales pushes, inability to complete or stick with projects (think how many attempts the company has had for a web-based version of its software), false starts (Faithlife Dating Service), I have to believe that some of these allegations might hold some truth.

So for the first time since Logos 1, I'm worried about the long-term vitality of the company.

Peter

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 2:19 PM

PL:

The program might still function but we won't have access to any of our resources.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

You can test this by ensuring your computer is disconnected from the Internet and starting Logos. It will run fine and you will have access to your resources - you won't (obviously) have access to features which require an Internet connection

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William Gabriel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 2:28 PM

PL:

I thought Logos 6 now "phones home" to get licensing info? If that's true, and if Faithlife the company exists no more, our software wouldn't be able to call home to validate licensing info. The program might still function but we won't have access to any of our resources.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm normally not concerned about the viability of Faithlife as a company. But if some of the comments on Glassdoor is indeed true - that it is internally a poorly managed company, that many employees view FL as a stepping-stone for their careers and thus the company is unable to retain good talent long-term, then I'm really concerned.

And thinking back on the various botched / amateur instances of new product rollout (e.g. Logos 4), server meltdowns, out-of-control over-zealous marketing / sales pushes, inability to complete or stick with projects (think how many attempts the company has had for a web-based version of its software), false starts (Faithlife Dating Service), I have to believe that some of these allegations might hold some truth.

So for the first time since Logos 1, I'm worried about the long-term vitality of the company.

Peter

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 2:42 PM

Whyndell Grizzard:
What is the process for backing up all the files- I have a stand alone HD 1 terabyte- plenty to store L6 (or 7, 8, 9 or even 10 if I live long enough) and all its files on.

Just backup the entire Logos folder in %localappdata% (it may be called Logos4, Logos5 or Verbum).

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 2:44 PM

PL:
I'm normally not concerned about the viability of Faithlife as a company. But if some of the comments on Glassdoor is indeed true - that it is internally a poorly managed company, that many employees view FL as a stepping-stone for their careers and thus the company is unable to retain good talent long-term, then I'm really concerned.

When evaluating the comments, look at the department that people are from, and whether they're a current employee or a former employee. You'll notice that the majority of comments that are negative about management are in the marketing/sales department, which suggests that if there is a problem, it's largely restricted to that one area.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 2:46 PM

PL:

I thought Logos 6 now "phones home" to get licensing info? If that's true, and if Faithlife the company exists no more, our software wouldn't be able to call home to validate licensing info. The program might still function but we won't have access to any of our resources.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

If you back up your entire installing (including the licence file), you should be able to continue to work without phoning home.

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JAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 3:59 PM

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It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

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JAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 4:22 PM

beliefnet:

God, we pray for all those who have suddenly lost employment. There are many. We ask you to first give them peace and a settled confidence. Their natural response is to shock and then fear, and to begin questioning their abilities, the past accomplishments and their future prospects. Give them your encouragement today, and do so through surprising ways, both directly from your Spirit and through other people who come across their path. Build them up, as this situation has torn them down. Remind them of past victories, and awaken new dreams for their future. Give them – today – divine appointments with people who may be key in opening a new future for them. Give them hope; lighten their step; lift the anxiety from their body; give them sleep and an unexpected joy. God, you intend us to have a purposeful life. You give us work assignments to accomplish because you designed us to help you create and sustain your creation. We are not made for idleness or sloth. We need meaningful work. So for all those who have lost a job, today bring them one step closer to a new direction. Show them any areas in their own character that need to change in order for their destiny to be realized. Then give them the wisdom and power to make those changes, by your Spirit. Today is a new day with new possibilities. Let nothing stand in the way of your purposes in the lives of those who, without your assistance, cannot find their next course. We pray this in Jesus…

Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/prayerplainandsimple/2010/03/a-prayer-for-anyone-facing-a-job-layoff.html#wpR50TjQWmaTM24y.99

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C M | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 6:16 PM

MJ. Smith:
My advice ... ignore most of the thread because most of it is speculation not knowledge. And since we don't have the facts to see what is going on, we can scarcely say we've seen it before although we may have seen something that bore distinct similarities from the perspective of a user without knowledge of the innards of the company.

"Where there's smoke, there's fire" or, the beginning of one.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 6:44 PM

Charles McNeil:
"Where there's smoke, there's fire" or, the beginning of one.

But where there is the illusion of smoke, there may be no fire ...Stick out tongue

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 6:48 PM

I wonder if the people that lost their job would so cavalierly describe their situation as "an illusion". 

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C M | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 6:55 PM

MJ. Smith:
But where there is the illusion of smoke, there may be no fire ...

It looks like Faithlife has its hands full. Which is easier, proving to Logos customers that the smoke is an illusion or that, there is no fire?

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C M | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 6:59 PM

William M. Harper:
Great question! That is my main concern as well. I know that you can still run the program offline but what IF Faithlife were to fail, would I be able to ever install it again on a new computer or even my current one? Those are questions I would like answered to my satisfaction before I invest a lot more money into this software.

I, too, am not a "fanboy" of Faithlife, but I believe Bob and the leadership love FL as much as you love using the Logos products. I also, believe Bob would do right by its customers and the company reputation. Independent of Bob and all the current employees, the Logos Bible Software is a good product. Bob would be less than wise to let such a good thing  slip between his fingers. In a remotest, chance of failure a wise businessman would snap it up before it hits the ground.

Remember, Christian users, "...God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind." You have nothing to fear for the future of Logos Bible Software, lest you forget, how Faithlife took care of its customers in the past. Ask questions, be inquisitive, but don't worry, Logos is a quality product. Its practicality speaks for itself. No Fear!

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C M | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 7:22 PM

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C M | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 7:58 PM

MJ. Smith:
I suspect that it is the makeup of the user base as the original target market has little overlap with Logos.

MJ,

Please unpack this statement.

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JAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 8:13 PM

Charles McNeil:
Is it possible for us to discuss this collection elsewhere finding it possibly that it lacks quality, to explain why it's not doing well?

MJ. Smith:

Charles McNeil:
finding it possibly that it lacks quality,

I was a subscriber to the series from the first volume to 80-something when I became to busy to read them. I assure you that quality is not the issue. I suspect that it is the makeup of the user base as the original target market has little overlap with Logos.

New discussion started Paulist Press Classics of Western Spirituality Bundle (126 vols.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 8:28 PM

Charles McNeil:
Please unpack this statement.

The original advertising for the series was describing it as an answer for those who were turning to the East for religious meaning and emphasizing that the values of mediation, self-knowledge, overcoming of self-deception, non-attachment, direct experience of union with the divine ... were also present in the West. Think what skeptics would call hippie fascination with the perennial philosophy. Given that there is no pressure on Logos to offer McGinn's The Presence of God: A History of Western Christian Mysticism, that Islam is panned without recognition of the Sufi contributions to Christian theology esp. Gregory Palamas, ... I could add a number of similar examples ... lead me to believe that "hippie fascination with the perennial philosophy" and "Logos users" have little overlap.

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C M | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 8:56 PM

MJ. Smith:
lead me to believe that "hippie fascination with the perennial philosophy" and "Logos users" have little overlap.

Concisely stated, Thanks.

Yet, you say this set has value. What and to whom?

Why FL invested so much with so little interest?

Do you think a big discount could generate new sells to recoup monies spent? 

New thread started Paulist Press Classics of Western Spirituality Bundle (126 vols.)

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 9:45 PM

Mark, you mention backing up %localappdata% ... I cannot find this on my system. Also, you mention backing up the license file.

Can you add a bit to what you're saying, e.g. how to actually back up the system should Faithlife go pads up & our computer(s) burst into a ball of flame at the same time. (Hopefully a hyperbole)

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danwdoo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 9:57 PM

Charles McNeil:

"Where there's smoke, there's fire" or, the beginning of one.

Wow. Just wow. I think Faithlife's patience in dealing with thread alone shows a level of integrity that should be all the assurance we need.

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