Search help about Christ & Nations he fights against

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Lee | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jan 13 2016 10:08 AM

Hello 

In the search I am wanting to search for which nations Christ will fight against in the end times. 

Like in Joel 3:2-4 and Joel 3:19.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2016 6:15 PM

It has been 8 hours ago that i posted. And 130 views.

But no one can give me an idea about a Search string this would like Jesus within so many words and nations or something like this. I am not good at this type of search.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2016 6:24 AM

One search idea is:

(nation,Tyre,Sidon,Philistia,Greek,Sabean,Egypt,Edom) WITHIN {Milestone <Joel 3>}

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Adam Borries (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2016 10:08 AM

Try this: 

({Section <Culture Divine judgment>}, {Section <Culture Divine punishment>}, {Section <Culture Divine opposition in battle>}, {Section <Culture Divine authority through dominance>}){Section <PreachingTheme = Eschatology>}

This search looks for related Cultural Concepts in the same passage as the Preaching Theme of Eschatology (the study of end times). 

It does not take "nations" into account. As Keep Smiling alludes to in his search, the only way to search for nations, is to include the specific names of each nation -- which may defeat the point of the search. 

If I have time later, I'll post more about how I constructed this search, so you can follow the workflow for other searches later.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2016 12:46 PM

Adam Borries (Logos Pro):

Try this: 

({Section <Culture Divine judgment>}, {Section <Culture Divine punishment>}, {Section <Culture Divine opposition in battle>}, {Section <Culture Divine authority through dominance>}){Section <PreachingTheme = Eschatology>}

the last term needs to be amended , so:

({Section <Culture Divine judgment>}, {Section <Culture Divine punishment>}, {Section <Culture Divine opposition in battle>}, {Section <Culture Divine authority through dominance>}, {Section <PreachingTheme = Eschatology>})

but it misses Rev 20:7-9 so an additional term is needed 

({Section <Culture Divine judgment>}, {Section <Culture Divine punishment>}, {Section <Culture Divine opposition in battle>}, {Section <Culture Divine authority through dominance>}, {Section <PreachingTheme = Eschatology>},  {Section <PreachingTheme = Eschatology: Last Judgment>})

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Adam Borries (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2016 2:45 PM

Dave Hooton:

but it misses Rev 20:7-9 so an additional term is needed 

({Section <Culture Divine judgment>}, {Section <Culture Divine punishment>}, {Section <Culture Divine opposition in battle>}, {Section <Culture Divine authority through dominance>}, {Section <PreachingTheme = Eschatology>},  {Section <PreachingTheme = Eschatology: Last Judgment>})

Interesting, thanks, Dave! You are going for something a little different from what I had in mind. I was trying to capture all passages with ANY of those Culture Concepts, AND that Preaching Theme. But you are right, many related passages are marked with Preaching Theme "Eschatology: Last Judgment," so I would amend my search this way: 

({Section <Culture Divine judgment>}, {Section <Culture Divine punishment>}, {Section <Culture Divine opposition in battle>}, {Section <Culture Divine authority through dominance>}) AND ({Section <PreachingTheme = Eschatology>}, {Section <PreachingTheme = Eschatology: Last Judgment>}) 

This more than doubles my previous search. Nice catch!

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2016 3:22 PM

Lee:

In the search I am wanting to search for which nations Christ will fight against in the end times. 

Like in Joel 3:2-4 and Joel 3:19.

I'm not sure God has ever given us that information (if the question is even theologically valid). If not, then Logos won't be able to help...

I'm not trying to start a theological argument here, perhaps I've misunderstood your question. But I can't see anyone's Logos library containing a list of which nations Christ will fight against in the end times (if any).

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2016 3:26 PM

Adam,

This would be another example of the potential benefits of being able to use wildcards and metadata when searching for entities.

It would be great to be able to add AND <Place *> to your search query, or better still AND <Place * WHERE Type="Nation"> or somesuch.

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