TYPO: Enhanced Strong's

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2016 2:19 PM

In the pic below, the two entries are shown as having the same pronunciation, but that is impossible.

The first entry accords with the pronunciation guide, the second cannot. Using the pronunciation common to Strong's it should be yay-tser. Is this in the hardcopy, or is it something FL can fix?

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2016 2:22 PM

Why are you still using Strong's?  Apparently you don't wish to have an adequate knowledge of the Hebrew bible.  I suggest that you immediately begin to use a more adequate resource.

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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2016 2:45 PM

Good ol' dependable George. Aside from places I have shown in the past where Strong's is actually more accurate than HALOT or BDB, Strong's is also the only lexicon to actually shown syllabic stress. That, plus as I have said before, in L3 my NASB has automatic pop-ups of Strong's entries by just hovering over the words. It is one of the many things that make L3 superior to L4, L5, L6, and every other subsequent version of Logos Bible Software that will ever be produced. Good to see you again, George!

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2016 3:21 PM

David Paul:
in L3 my NASB has automatic pop-ups of Strong's entries by just hovering over the words

Don't know if you are aware but the Information Pane provides this functionality as below

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2016 4:17 PM

Graham, yes I am aware that the Info pane will show the Strong's entries...but you either have to leave the Info pain open, in which case it will strobe new info with every pass of your cursor across your screen (not a very pleasant experience--and if you are epileptic, watch out!), or if you don't already have it open, you have to open it. When you do open it, often the Strong's entry is truncated (as are most of the other entries as well), and to see the whole thing you have to click it and go to another window, and so on. In L3, I click on nothing. It's just "hover"--satisfaction.

Thanks for your time. You're a good guy.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2016 5:16 PM

David Paul:
Aside from places I have shown in the past where Strong's is actually more accurate than HALOT or BDB

That is NEVER the case.  It may have what you WANT it to say, but that doesn't make it correct.  I've said this more than once, but I'll risk saying it again:  Strong's reflects the glosses used in the AV (KJV) which is not up to date knowledge.

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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2016 6:16 PM

You might be onto something, George. The whole idea that the Bible is full of timeless wisdom could be oversold. 


Or not.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2016 11:17 PM

David Paul:
.but you either have to leave the Info pain open, in which case it will strobe new info with every pass of your cursor across your screen (not a very pleasant experience--and if you are epileptic, watch out!), or if you don't already have it open, you have to open it

Or you can set it to update on "click"

I appreciate this doesn't provide exactly the same result but it does avoid the "strobing" effect you mention and is the setting I prefer

David Paul:
often the Strong's entry is truncated (as are most of the other entries as well), and to see the whole thing you have to click it and go to another window

You can choose whether you get a brief entry, the entire entry or just the gloss

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 29 2016 7:59 PM

Graham, many thanks for this info. I confess to not being very proficient in any Logos version since L3 since I spend 99% of my time using Libronix. This will help for when I do use it. You are one of the most helpful MVPs on the forum! Yes

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DivineCordial | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 2 2016 6:13 AM

FYI, my edition of Strong's on Logos has the same vowel pointing and pronunciation for each of the words:

3339.  יִצְרִי Yitsrîy, yits-ree´; from 3335; formative; Jitsri, an Isr.;—Isri.

3340.  יִצְרִי Yitsrîy, yits-ree´; patron. from 3337; a Jitsrite (Collect.) or desc. of Jetser:—Jezerites.

 Strong, J. (2009). A Concise Dictionary of the Words in the Greek Testament and The Hebrew Bible (Vol. 2, p. 51). Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software.


The same readings are found in my print edition of Strong's as well.

 Strong, J. (1996). " ... Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers, Inc.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 2 2016 1:50 PM

DivineCordial:
The same readings are found in my print edition of Strong's as well.

Well, that explains it. Not unexpected, really.

"And thus it shall ever be!"...i.e. it will never be fixed. (Anyone know what this would be in Latin? It just sounds like a Latin phrase.)

Thanks for this. Bad news, but I don't blame the messenger. 

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