Searching for "the old writers" - de oude schrijvers

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Milkman | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jan 23 2016 4:54 AM

I'm currently reading through "Bavinck On The Christian Life: Following Jesus In Faithful Service" which is part of Crossway's Theologians on The Christian Life series which Faithlife carries some.

I came across this sentence and I need help on how to do a search for these particular writers who were contemporaneous with the Second Reformation.

The Second Reformation was about rebirth, but above all, about sanctification and holy living. For this reason, the conventional caricature of Puritanism in general, and pietism more particularly - namely, that is represents an individualistic, ascetic, otherworldly, and anticultural Christianity - is definitely not applicable to the Second Reformation. The emphasis upon repentance, conversion, a living, active faith and the practice of piety, and the progressive reformation of the life of individuals was matched by a concern for the progressive reformation of the church and of society. The writers of the Second Reformation - commonly called de oude schrijvers (the old writers) (emphasis) - were not only familiar to the Dutch Seceders of the Nineteenth century; they were also much read and well loved.

How would I search for and not get a ton of hits (which I have already experienced) for the writers who are called "the old writers" in the above sentence?

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HJ. van der Wal | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 23 2016 12:13 PM

Shalom Milkman!

Have you tried searching for "Nadere Reformatie" (Second Reformation) and "oudvaders"?

You can also search your library for individual "oude schrijvers", e.g.: Taffin, Willem Teellinck, Voetius, Theodorus à Brakel, Wilhelmus à Brakel, Van Lodenstein, Koelman, Witsius, Hellenbroek, Smytegelt, Schortinghuis, Comrie, Van der Groe, etc.

Side note:

I hope Logos would put some of these "oudvaders" on Community Pricing. In contrast to Kuyper, Berkouwer and other neocalvinists many of these "old writers" are still being reprinted (and read!) in the Netherlands today.

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JAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 23 2016 12:20 PM

There is a 10 article treatment on the subject on this Dutch language webpage:

Oude schrijvers - RD.nl

 (Google Translate will give you a good flavor of the content)

This Dutch Wikipedia article is informative: 

Oudvader - Wikipedia

Below is a link list from the Wikipedia article.

"The Christian mind is the prerequisite of Christian thinking. And Christian thinking is the prerequisite of Christian action." - Harry Blamires, 1963

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HJ. van der Wal | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 23 2016 12:30 PM

Here are two more links:

Nadere Reformatie (English Wikipedia)

Sleutel tot de Nadere Reformatie (Dutch)

 

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Milkman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 23 2016 7:55 PM

Shalom H.J.

  • Your suggestion for searching "nadere reformatie" came back with just over 200 results.
  • The suggestion for "second reformation" came back with close to 600 results.
  • Searching for "oudvaders" came back with only 1 result.

Your reply was most helpful. However, had I not received your reply I would still be searching for my first results not having a lot of knowledge about the Second Reformation or those who were instrumental in the movement.

I think this leads in quite well with your suggestion for FL to consider putting out 'some of these "oudvaders" on Community Pricing.' I for one am quite weak in this area of Reformed history, hence my OP.

Once again thank-you for your helpful suggestions.

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Milkman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 23 2016 7:58 PM

Thanks JAL,

Your Wikipedia link was most helpful. As mentioned above, my knowledge on the Second Reformation is slim and I would not have thought (out of a lack of knowledge) to search for these men.

Once again thanks.

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JAL:

There is a 10 article treatment on the subject on this Dutch language webpage:

Oude schrijvers - RD.nl

 (Google Translate will give you a good flavor of the content)

This Dutch Wikipedia article is informative: 

Oudvader - Wikipedia

Below is a link list from the Wikipedia article.

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JAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 23 2016 10:50 PM

Milkman,

I think you will enjoy, and find it is worthwhile, reading the ten articles at the webpage Oude schrijvers - RD.nl. Using Google Translate I was rewarded reading these short articles about contemporary interest in and engagement with the writings of 17th and 18th century christians.

"The Christian mind is the prerequisite of Christian thinking. And Christian thinking is the prerequisite of Christian action." - Harry Blamires, 1963

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JAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 23 2016 10:55 PM

Also... Try searching Further Reformation.

"The Christian mind is the prerequisite of Christian thinking. And Christian thinking is the prerequisite of Christian action." - Harry Blamires, 1963

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Sascha John | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 23 2016 11:00 PM

First Name gives 4 second Name 32 Artikels in Logos so search for the Names might give you also good Stuff to read.

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JAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 23 2016 11:21 PM

Thanks you Sascha John for reconnecting this discussion to the Faithlife platform. Most, if not all, of the names should return results. For many of the writers listed you will find multi-volume collections in the Logos web-store.

This is a very significant resource:

The Christian’s Reasonable Service (4 vols.) by Wilhelmus à Brakel

"The Christian mind is the prerequisite of Christian thinking. And Christian thinking is the prerequisite of Christian action." - Harry Blamires, 1963

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