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William Blair | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Feb 2 2016 5:57 AM

The diagram feature of Logos is great, but there are a number of real issues for which I cannot find a resolution. 

1. I would like to copy the text "from" a diagram into a Word file as text not as an image. 

2. There are times when a symbol need to be attached in the middle of a DO or S/V line. Also the left and right conjunction symbols will not connect. There are cases when this is a requirement to properly diagram a verse. 

Can anyone offer how I can make this work or is this something LOGOS needs to address?

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 6:18 AM

The sentence diagramming tool has not changed much since the current tool was released in L4. There have been suggestions over the years, however not much has really been done. I suspect this is one of those tools that is utilized by few users, therefore Logos has not committed a lot of time or resources to improvements.

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Sascha John | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 6:25 AM

Doe you mean the Sentence Diagramm?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 9:07 AM

William Blair:
1. I would like to copy the text "from" a diagram into a Word file as text not as an image. 

This is probably not practical because it is not subject to the spacing requirements e.g. line spacing of text. Can you give an example of what you are trying to acheive so we can see if there is a way to do it? However, have you tried the right-click Copy with the various Paste options such as Text only in Word?

William Blair:
2. There are times when a symbol need to be attached in the middle of a DO or S/V line. Also the left and right conjunction symbols will not connect.

This is not my work but is from the Faithlife sentence diagramming group. Again, I need an example (screen shot) to see what you are having trouble with in order to find the answer.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 9:15 AM

Fredc:
I suspect this is one of those tools that is utilized by few users,

I have heard this at a Faithlife open house. However, I know I don't use it as much as I would like because I find it too difficult to use ... so much easier to use some free tools that do the job better.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 9:17 AM

MJ. Smith:
I know I don't use it as much as I would like because I find it too difficult to use

I agree with you about this MJ. I think it is one of the reasons why I seldom use it.

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Ryan Robinson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 9:27 AM

MJ. Smith:

so much easier to use some free tools that do the job better.

Which free tools?

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Whyndell Gizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 9:38 AM

Bruce Dunning:

MJ. Smith:
I know I don't use it as much as I would like because I find it too difficult to use

I agree with you about this MJ. I think it is one of the reasons why I seldom use it.

Yes this tool can be very clumsy to use- and I use this a lot- or use to.

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William Blair | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 9:49 AM

I am unable to paste a screen print to this window.

I have a sentence diagram with the morphology above each word. To reduce clutter, I have a text table to the side that is coded to  each word. In that table, I have the usage (aspect and Aktionsart) for each word. To simplify editing, I want to copy the text in that text box to Word in order to modify it. It is easy to copy from Word to the diagram page, but not from the diagram page to Word. 

The second item is I have a subject/verb symbol. I need to insert a downward stilt on the verb side of the vertical line. the stilt and the S/V symbol will not connect. If I add it to the end but need to add another symbol, the three symbols will not link. Only two will link and the third will not.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 10:03 AM

Reed-Kellogg - from the University of Southern Florida: SenDraw

Syntax Tree - TreeForm Syntax Tree

New kid on the block is TreeBuilder which I have less experience with but appreciate grammar features of.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 2 2016 10:04 AM

William Blair:
I am unable to paste a screen print to this window.

Correct. You need to use the paperclip icon to insert images.

William Blair:
I have a text table to the side

What you want to do makes sense but I don't know a way to do it. I may have time to play with it later and see if there is some work around.

William Blair:
the three symbols will not link.

To answer this we need someone who uses Reed-Kellogg more than I - I lean towards syntactic trees when I diagram.

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 3 2016 5:45 AM

MJ. Smith:
However, I know I don't use it as much as I would like because I find it too difficult to use

I guess that is the real question. Is it under utilized because few are interested in using an SD tool; or because this particular tool is not very user friendly?

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Whyndell Gizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 3 2016 6:30 AM

latter

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Whyndell Gizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 3 2016 8:15 AM

This is just one way to diagram help

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