Edit Attachment Points—Notes

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Bobby Bosler | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016 7:54 AM

I was working today through Garland's Commentary on 2 Corinthians. Very good stuff! But in the process, I ran across a very good definition of "conscience". I wanted to add the definition to everywhere I might end up searching for conscience, but I've found some limitations.

My thought was, if I created a Note file named something like "definitions," add the quote and reference, and then edit the attachment points to point at my Bible Sense Lexicon entry for "Conscience", my Headword "Conscience", and the <Topic Conscience>, that should show up when I need it again.

However, from the "Edit Attachment Points" field, when I type "conscience", the only option I get is the BSL entry. I can right click a Dictionary Headword and add a note to the headword that way, but I can't seem to add it from the Note itself. Furthermore, I can't find a way to attach a note to a topic entry at all!

Am I mission something?

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Bobby Bosler | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 24 2016 6:11 AM

Ok, if nobody knows the answer to this, could somebody tell me where I can find out which datasets are supported as attachment points?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 24 2016 1:16 PM

Logos hasn't given us very detailed information: Updated Feature: Notes

Nor is this extract necessarily comprehensive:



ATTACHMENT POINTS

The same Note can be attached to multiple locations or points. For example, imagine attaching a Note to:

    ■      In the beginning in Genesis 1:1 and you want that same Note on in the beginning in John 1:1
    ■      Matthew 6:11 and you want that same Note on Luke 11:3
    ■      The person Barnabas in Acts 4:36 and you want that same Note on the person Barnabas everywhere in Scripture
    ■      The place Corinth in 1 Corinthians 1:2 and you want that same Note on Corinth everywhere in Scripture
    ■      The thing shield in Ephesians 6:16 and you want that same Note on shield everywhere in Scripture

All of the previous wants (and more) represent Attachment Points which can be added to an existing Note.

To open the Attachment Point editor for an existing Note:

    ■      Rest the cursor on a Note Title in a Notes document (A)
    ■      Click to the right of the Note the arrow that appears (B)
    ■      Select Edit attachment points (C)



To add an Attachment Point to selected text:

    ■      Select desired text in a resource (A)
    ■      Click Attach to current selection (B)
    ■      Click Done to close the Attachment Point editor (C)      



To add an Attachment Point to a Biblical passage:

    ■      Type the biblical reference in the Reference box (A)
    ■      Select the reference in the drop down list (B)
    ■      Click Done to close the Attachment Point editor



To add an Attachment Point to a Biblical Person:

    ■      Type the Person’s name in the Reference box (A)
    ■      Select the Person in the drop down list (B)
    ■      Click Done to close the Attachment Point editor



To add an Attachment Point to a Biblical Place:

    ■      Type the Place’s name in the Reference box (A)
    ■      Select the Place in the drop down list (B)
    ■      Click Done to close the Attachment Point editor



To add an Attachment Point to a Biblical Thing:

    ■      Type the Thing’s name in the Reference box (A)
    ■      Select the Thing in the drop down list (B)
    ■      Click Done to close the Attachment Point editor



To add an Attachment Point to a Biblical Event:

    ■      Type words from the Event’s title in the Reference box (A)
    ■      Select the Event in the drop down list (B)
    ■      Click Done to close the Attachment Point editor



To add an Attachment Point to a Sense:

    ■      Type a word from the Sense in the Reference box (A)
    ■      Select the Sense in the drop down list (B)
    ■      Click Done to close the Attachment Point editor



To add an Attachment Point to a Hebrew Lemma:

    ■      Type h: transliteration of the Hebrew word in the Reference box (A)
    ■      Select the lemma in the drop down list (B)
    ■      Click Done to close the Attachment Point editor



To add an Attachment Point to a Greek Lemma:

    ■      Type g: transliteration of the Greek word in the Reference box (A)
    ■      Select the lemma in the drop down list (B)
    ■      Click Done to close the Attachment Point editor




Morris Proctor, Logos 6: Training Manual, vol. 2 (Murfreesboro, TN: MP Seminars, 2015), 26–28.

I'll give  "shout out" to Eli to see if he has more detailed information.

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Eli Evans (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 24 2016 2:27 PM

MJ is being modest. That's a pretty complete answer.

Unfortunately, there isn't any interface for attaching notes to headwords or to topics from within a note file — yet. We prioritized adding those data types that are common in the library, especially in Bibles.

As you discovered, you can attach a note to a headword via right-click. (You might be able to do that with a topic reference as well, but it's unlikely, since not many things in the library are tagged with topics. Yet.)

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Bobby Bosler | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 24 2016 6:24 PM

Thanks MJ and Eli for the very helpful answers!

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Timothy Kenghua Hsu | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 13 2018 11:26 AM

Hi,

I'm trying to attach a biblical person to a note, the exact scenario of your third point: "The person Barnabas in Acts 4:36 and you want that same Note on the person Barnabas everywhere in Scripture." I am able to go through the steps:  Type the Person's name in the Reference box (A), Select the Person in the drop down list (B), Click Done to close the Attachment Point editor. However, when I go to other passage that this person is mentioned, the note is not showing up. Please help!!

Tim

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 13 2018 12:10 PM

I will have to spend some more time digging into what is being described here, and maybe it isn't as "bad" as I think it is, but it sounds like this is going in the wrong direction. Notes should have hover-and-see presentation qualities, and NOT links to other points in one's library. Maybe this is just about how to multiply notes quickly. Anything that can be done to help speed that process is good. But like I said in another thread, Notes should NOT be "Memos" but "Presentation Gateways". Anything else is a major fail.

I guess the name "Attachment Point Editor" is what's got me uncertain. It sounds like a means of creating hyperlinks within notes linking to resource content within one's library, but it is being described more like a glorified cut-and-paste mechanism. Which is it, or is it both?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 13 2018 1:44 PM

Timothy Kenghua Hsu:
However, when I go to other passage that this person is mentioned, the note is not showing up

It will not show up in your Bibles - where it is notes attached to Biblical references that show up. Off the top of my head, I've forgotten where they do show up - I'll research it when I have a bit more time. 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 13 2018 1:48 PM

David Paul:
Which is it, or is it both?

Think of it as a way to add additional references for which the note will appear i.e. you can write a single note on the creation of Adam and attach it to the references Gen 1:27 and Gen 2:7. The old system only allowed one such reference - now we can have many.

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Timothy Kenghua Hsu | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 13 2018 2:38 PM

Hi MJ. Smith,

Thanks so much for replying!! This has been troubling me for quite a long time. I really appreciate someone would take the time to answer me. However, I don't quite understand what you mean. Maybe let me explain my problem in more detail will help.

1. I want to add a note on Φίλιππον (Philip) so I right click the word and click the "Commentary"(where I want to put my note)

 

2. I copy few paragraphs from The Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary and paste it in the "Commentary" note, and I add the attachment point of "Philip (Apostle)" and click done.

3. Now I go to a passage where Philip was mentioned (i.e., Matthew 10:3) but there was no note attached to it.

I hope I had made it clear. I thought this is probably a function that many people would need of, so I am very certain there must be a way but just I couldn't figure it out. 

Thanks so much again. God bless you!!!!

Tim

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 13 2018 3:18 PM

Would you please use the right-click Context Menu to do the following:

  1. In a Bible, select Phillip (doesn't matter where) and right-click to bring up the Context Menu)
  2. On the right hand side, select Phillip (apostle)
  3. On the left hand side, select Search: everything
  4. Do you see your note in the Your Documents sections?

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Timothy Kenghua Hsu | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 13 2018 3:35 PM

Yes, I do. But is this the only way I can access to the note? I mean, can't it show up like a little icon next to the person?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 13 2018 4:36 PM

Timothy Kenghua Hsu:
But is this the only way I can access to the note?

I don't know the answer, unfortunately.

Timothy Kenghua Hsu:
I mean, can't it show up like a little icon next to the person?

It doesn't. I haven't tried it in the new notes system. I agree this would be useful.

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