Adrian Rogers Sermons

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 17 2016 7:38 AM

I really hate to start admitting this, but now I'm seeing the importance of having a secondary Bible software (maybe even a third for some freebies).

I just took the plunge on the Bible Speaks Today both OT and NT all for only $120 on sale! Unfortunately, for just a few tags Logos version of the OT is too expensive for me :( with my other software the quality is just as good tagging wise for what I need it. OT is a nice set! I'm going to enjoy as much as the NT 👍

DAL

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2016 11:15 AM

DAL:

I really hate to start admitting this, but now I'm seeing the importance of having a secondary Bible software (maybe even a third for some freebies).

I just took the plunge on the Bible Speaks Today both OT and NT all for only $120 on sale! Unfortunately, for just a few tags Logos version of the OT is too expensive for me :( with my other software the quality is just as good tagging wise for what I need it. OT is a nice set! I'm going to enjoy as much as the NT 👍

DAL

I hate to admit the same thing.  Up until a year or so ago, I would not buy resources from anyone but Logos.  But when another company put Bonhoeffer's works on sale for about $400 less than Logos sells them, I reconsidered.  While I would prefer them tagged and in my Logos library, I do not prefer it $400 worth.  Especially since I mostly just want to read and occasionally search them. 

I realize that was a special sale, and not their regular price.  Also, I have bought nothing else from that Bible software company, and I would still pay more to have a resource in Logos.  Just not $400 more, or $300 more for that matter.

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 19 2016 3:13 PM

I really hate to admit this, but I returned the Adrian Rogers Legacy Collection and have decided to wait for the Logos version of it.  I just couldn't stand how sloppy it was put together in WS.  The Adrian Rogers foundation has updated the Legacy Collection to now include new sermons and has made sure to outline all the manuscripts properly.  So I'm hoping Logos gets a hold of this "Updated version" so they can do a better job when and if they do offer this great resource.  If they do, I'm really looking forward to add it to my sermon archive collection!

I did go for other cool resources that were done way better than the Adrian Rogers Legacy Collection.  I went for Rod Mattoon's "commentaries," The Sermon Notebook (available free online but not as searchable), The Teacher's Outline and Study Bible (It has been lingering in Logos Prepub forever), Expository Preaching Through the Old Testament and the Tyndale Handbook of Bible Maps and Charts (which I still don't get why it's been so many years and it's still not available in Logos).  All these awesome great resources for virtually the same sale price as the Adrian Rogers Legacy Collection - which means I got more bang for my bucks!

Blessings!

DAL

Ps. I love Adrian Rogers, great content, but the quality of the product was just plain sloppy and unacceptable for the price they're selling it for.

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 20 2016 8:00 AM

DAL:

I really hate to admit this, but I returned the Adrian Rogers Legacy Collection and have decided to wait for the Logos version of it.  I just couldn't stand how sloppy it was put together in WS. 

 I could not agree with you more Dal.  I wish I had return mine because I don't use it in wordsearch and really feel like I wasted that money.  I know that logos will do a much much better job at producing this resource, if they ever do. I sure hope they do. I would pay for it again just to have it in logos. While I appreciate the good prices of the wordsearch products, they are just far far inferior to logos products. The entire WS  framework needs an overhaul, on top of many other things. It's just not a very intuitive framework for Bible study, especially for anything other than reading a book (i.e.:  morphological searches, in-depth searches, research ). 

Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2016 3:04 PM

David P. Moore:

 Thank you!  A little pricey but since they have updated the manuscripts to include full outlines  i'm sure it's going to be better quality than the competition.   I definitely don't mind paying for something that has better quality.  My pre-pub has been place!

 Let's just hope that it doesn't get stuck in prepub limbo.

DAL

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Jesse Blevins | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2016 4:19 PM

Big Smile

Does anyone know if these are the updated sermons with full outlines? I was reading the product pages but didn't see where it mentioned it. 

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Ted Weis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2016 4:51 PM

Wow! I'm in.

And hopefully, they won't be sloppy like the version from the other vendor.

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Kenute P. Curry | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2016 6:06 PM

Adrian Rogers is one of the best, but I am shocked at the price!

I will not be buying this. Price is far too exorbitant. 

But I am happy to see that it is finally in prepub.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2016 7:42 PM

Kenute P. Curry:

Adrian Rogers is one of the best, but I am shocked at the price!

I will not be buying this. Price is far too exorbitant. 

But I am happy to see that it is finally in prepub.

WS's price is higher than Logos Prepub. I'm sure Logos will have the updated manuscripts with full outlines since this seems to be a recent contract/deal. WS is sloppy for their high price on these sermons; and I mean sloppy, but it's probably due to them not having the updated manuscripts. Even then, the price seems to be a publisher's thing on this one, since they'll even sell the disk with PDF's for over $300.

DAL

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Greg Corbin | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2016 8:40 AM

Just placed my pre-order. In my opinion, these will be worth every single penny.  Now if only W.A. Criswell would become a Logos product. I know all of them are available for free online but to have them in Logos would be outstanding.

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Kyle G. Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2016 8:56 AM

Jesse Blevins:

Does anyone know if these are the updated sermons with full outlines? I was reading the product pages but didn't see where it mentioned it. 

They will include the full outlines. We will also be adding new "Sermon Outline" label mark-up that will make the outlines searchable using label syntax.

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DBR | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2016 10:23 AM

I think that this is a great deal which could only be made better if it was part of a base package. If you do the math on recent prepubs of sermons, this is almost the cheapest per sermon with the exception of Don Fortner.

Don Fortner $.07 per sermon

John Piper $.08 per sermon

Macarthur $.13 per sermon (In Baptist Platinum so you can get it much cheaper.)

Adrian Rogers $.13 per sermon

D. A. Carson $.16 per sermon

Tony Evans $.19 per sermon

Matt Chandler $.22 per sermon

Tim Keller $.25 per sermon

J. D. Greear $.29 per sermon

David Platt $.41 per sermon (Available in Baptist Gold)

Not all the sermon collections, but a least the big, modern ones. Makes me really think about picking up that Piper Sermon set. 

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Daniel Motley (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2016 10:32 AM

Hi all,

I've added sample pages to the product page to give you an idea of what will be included in the sermon archive.

Let me know if you have any more questions!

Product Manager, Faithlife

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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2016 1:06 PM

Daniel Motley:
Let me know if you have any more questions!

I hope this will also include a Sermon by reference index? I ask this because David Platt sermons did not come with one.

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Justin Gatlin | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2016 3:24 PM

Daniel Motley:

Hi all,

I've added sample pages to the product page to give you an idea of what will be included in the sermon archive.

Let me know if you have any more questions!

Are all 1925 sermons full manuscripts? In my copy in Wordsearch, some are just outlines. My pre-order is in anyway. Having his illustrations alone searchable is worth the cost.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2016 4:31 PM

 Yes it looks like they are full manuscripts with their respective searchable outlines.

 I'm so glad I returned the copy that I got from wordsearch.  It's so sloppy I can't believe they're selling it for $350.  Yeah you get 30% off but still at 245 I'd rather have the updated way better Logos version of it. 

DAL

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Greg Corbin | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2016 7:02 AM

In 2003, I had the privilege of being part of the first Adrian Rogers Pastor Training Institute.  He invited 50 young pastors to spend three days with him. He cleared his calendar and invested in us. He did not talk with us at all about "church growth" or "how we do it at Bellevue,"  He talked with us about being a man of God, integrity, marriage, family, and expository preaching. It was to this day three of the best days of my life. I have these sessions on my iphone and frequently still listen to them when I travel.  See below a tribute that I wrote to him when he passed away....

A Tribute to Dr. Adrian Rogers

By Gregory L. Corbin

November 15, 2005

 

Dr. Adrian Rogers, a well-known pastor and leader in the Southern Baptist Convention, went home to be with the Lord on November 15, 2005.  While I will not be among the thousands who will be present at his funeral service, I decided to honor Dr. Rogers among my church family and others that I have contact with by sharing my thoughts about a man that I had the opportunity to meet up close and personal.

“I want to be like Adrian Rogers.”  Those have been the words of thousands of young Baptist preachers over the years. They have been my words in my younger days as well.  I still remember the first time that I saw Adrian Rogers preaching on television. I had just begun my own journey of preaching the Word of God when I saw my first Love Worth Finding broadcast. “What a voice,” I remember thinking.  Like many, I was struck by his booming voice and the passion that he preached with.  In 1996, I saw him in person for the first time as he preached at the Southern Baptist Pastor’s Conference in New Orleans. He was no less impressive in person than on television. Great preacher. Huge church. Baptizing hundreds. Commanding leader.   Like many young preachers there, I remember thinking, “I want to be like Adrian Rogers.”

Fast forward to the Fall of 2003.  I was privileged to be one of 50 pastors that Dr. Rogers invited to spend three days with him in Memphis.  I preached that Sunday morning at the church I was serving as pastor, hopped into my car, and took off to Bellevue Baptist Church in Memphis for the evening worship service. It was an incredible service and Dr. Rogers preached a tremendous message.  There were three or four other pastors who arrived early for the conference to attend the evening service. To our surprise, an announcement was made at the end of the service that Dr. Rogers would like to meet in his office with any pastors who were present.          We were escorted into his office.  Of course, it was very large and tastefully decorated. Behind his desk were portraits of Dr. Rogers with three different United States Presidents. However, the thing that I remember most about his office was the visitor who was there when we entered – a truck driver.  As a child, this man had been saved and baptized at Bellevue early on in Dr. Rogers’ ministry there. He had not been to Bellevue or seen Dr. Rogers since he was a child. In fact, he was not even planning on being at Bellevue that night. His rig had broken down in Memphis, and it was going to be the next morning before he was going to be able to resume his trip. So, in his work clothes, he took a taxi to Bellevue for the Sunday night service and wound up getting invited to visit with Dr. Rogers in his office.  It impressed me that Dr. Rogers would do that. He only spent about ten minutes with that man, but it was ten minutes that man will never forget. Even though thousands were present that night at church, Adrian Rogers took a few minutes to talk to a truck driver he had not seen in years.

When the pastor’s conference started the next morning, I was again pleasantly surprised.  Dr. Rogers had cleared his calendar for three days for us. Yes, he taught us during the sessions, but he also stood out in the hallway with us during the breaks.  He ate meals with us.  He arrived early to talk with people and he left late after talking with people. He had a way of making each person that he talked with feel like the most important person in the building.

Speaking of the sessions, they turned out to be the opposite of what I expected. For three days, Dr. Rogers never talked to us about “how to grow a big church.”  Instead, he talked with us about the pastor’s prayer life and personal integrity.  He talked about the pastor’s family life – “the ministry that doesn’t begin at home doesn’t begin.”  He taught us about expository preaching and how important it was to invest our lives in preaching the Word – “the Bible will get the job done.”  He opened up and shared with us deeply personal stories of the tragedies and triumphs of his fifty years in ministry.  He shared with us about times when he failed as a husband and struggled as a father.  He shared with us about the times when he was not happy at the church he was serving. He told us about times when he had been hurt.  There was not a dry eye in the house when he and his wife Joyce talked about the heart break of burying their infant son.

Another attribute that impressed me was the fact that Adrian Rogers was comfortable in his own skin. He did not try to act as if he was not a well-known pastor who led one of the largest ministries in the world. Yet, his genuine humility shined through at every turn. There was absolutely no hint of taking credit or putting on airs.  He was humble, real, and personable.  On the closing night of conference, we had a formal banquet.  A friend and I sat down at a table and begin talking when I felt a hand on my shoulder. “May we join you?” Dr. Rogers asked as he sat down with his wife. So, I literally ate a meal elbow to elbow with Adrian Rogers. We did not talk about Bellevue or his ministry.  He asked about my wife and children. He wanted to know all about them. He asked about my church and how things were going. I had dinner with Adrian Rogers and he wanted to talk about me.

When I arrived home the next day, I wrote Dr. Rogers and thanked him for three of the best days of my life. On a recent trip, I listened to most of the tapes of those sessions again. Once again, I laughed and cried and prayed as I listened to Adrian Rogers remind me that the most important things about a pastor are not the size of his church and the number of baptisms.  Now that he has gone on to be with the Lord, I will probably listen to them again very soon.  They are priceless.

I am so thankful that I had the opportunity to get to know Adrian Rogers the man. He was so much more than a powerful preacher and a strong leader.  He was a husband who stayed faithful to his wife and loved her more the longer he was married to her.  He was a father who would quickly let you know how proud he was of his children, and, when it was time to have dinner with them, he showed you to the door! They were important.  He preached with great boldness but on a personal level he was humble, loving, and sincere. He loved Christ with all of his heart. He served the church with all of his might.  He preached to thousands from one of the most prestigious pulpits in the world, and yet he took time to talk to truck drivers and young preachers from Alabama.  There was never a hint of scandal or immorality in all of his years as a pastor. He was faithful to his Lord, his family, and his church. In a day when so many fell, he stood. In a day when so many quit, he finished. It was never about Adrian, but it was always about Jesus. Whenever he stepped into the pulpit, he did not have a sermon – he brought a message. He preached from the heart – with all of his heart. He lived what he preached. And then he died.

I want to be like Adrian Rogers.

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2016 8:05 AM

 

DAL:

Kenute P. Curry:

Adrian Rogers is one of the best, but I am shocked at the price!

I will not be buying this. Price is far too exorbitant. 

But I am happy to see that it is finally in prepub.

WS's price is higher than Logos Prepub. I'm sure Logos will have the updated manuscripts with full outlines since this seems to be a recent contract/deal. WS is sloppy for their high price on these sermons; and I mean sloppy, but it's probably due to them not having the updated manuscripts. Even then, the price seems to be a publisher's thing on this one, since they'll even sell the disk with PDF's for over $300.

DAL

  The WS sale price was a bit cheaper, but Logos' price is well worth the value, in my opinion.  I bought the WS, and would not have done so if I had thought Logos would produce this so fast.  A $200 mistake on my part, as one day I will purchase it again in Logos.  For now I am stuck with an extra program on my computer just for this one resource.  Clumsy, but usable.

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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William Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2016 11:40 AM

Yeah clumsy to say the least. WS is like sabotaged software, it suffers terribly. I have had it for a long time and do not use it very often. Sad thing is I have a lot of resources in it  - and many times they offer content @ very discounted prices and unavailable elsewhere. Their customer service is atrocious! I was actually insulted by a "tech support rep" once when I called for help. For me, it really functions more like a search-able book shelf than true bible software. However, they do have free online training, maybe I should look into checking it out just make sure I'm getting the benefits of the program. I just can bear to put any more resources into WS.

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