Be Honest - Do you know why there are more than 1 link sets?

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Dec 1 2016 12:26 PM

One of the many things that has always baffled me about Logos Bible Software is why more than one linkset exists?

If I am linking a bunch of books together like 1 Bible and several commentaries, why would I use anything other than the Letter A Linkset please?

Is their a primer on basic linking someplace please? 

Also, I also can never figure out why I cannot open a bunch of books from my library and have them linked at once to the same place.

Thanks from Rhode Island Logos Dunce who clearly has not mastered the basics of Logos yet  but one day before Jesus comes back would like to

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 12:33 PM

In your example, you wouldn't need to use a second link set.

A simple example for that case would be that you want one link set (say, A) to link a bible and a commentary, and a different link set (say, B) to link two or more Hebrew or Greek lexicons.

Any navigation in the first linked set wouldn't change the second linked set, which makes sense for that simple case.

Of course, L7 Multi View is faster and more efficient than link sets. I'd recommend using it when possible, instead of link sets.

JoshInRI:

Is their a primer on basic linking someplace please? 

https://wiki.logos.com/Linking_Resources

The wiki is a good place to check for answers to questions like that.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 12:34 PM

Thanks Petah....I have no idea was multiview is but I do have Logos Now and will try to figure it out.  Bless you.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 12:49 PM

JoshInRI:

One of the many things that has always baffled me about Logos Bible Software is why more than one linkset exists?

If I am linking a bunch of books together like 1 Bible and several commentaries, why would I use anything other than the Letter A Linkset please?

This is advanced bible software that allows you the flexibilty of creating more than one link set because there is more than one data type the program offers. You might want A for bibles and commentaries, B for lexicons, C for dictionaries, D for another bible that you have set up to be the target for hyperlinks so you don't loose your place in your main bible and you may choose to include a one volume commentary or study bible in this link set.

JoshInRI:

Also, I also can never figure out why I cannot open a bunch of books from my library and have them linked at once to the same place.

Because this is advanced Bible Software that allows you flexibilty in the way you work. If you want the same thing every time you open the software it is not hard to do at all Josh, no programming required, just a few mouse clicks.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 1:51 PM

JoshInRI:
One of the many things that has always baffled me about Logos Bible Software is why more than one linkset exists?

Thankful for capability of several link sets. Typically use none or one, but have used several for some studies. One link set for Bible and Commentary with another to receive hyperlinks so could read cross references while keeping primary text in one set.

JoshInRI:
Also, I also can never figure out why I cannot open a bunch of books from my library and have them linked at once to the same place.

Customizing a Quick Start Layout (or saving a layout) allows your desired link set(s) of resources to be reused. Quick Start layout with Bible opens to last Bible location.

Thankful for 10,000+ forum discussions plus Logos Wiki and Camp Logos; have learned a lot plus have a lot to learn (long ago lost track of how many hours, days, weeks, months, ... were being spent using Logos). Using Logos efficiently takes practice and use (seems kind of circular that using Logos can lead to becoming more proficient so personally have reduced number of open tabs while knowing how to quickly open more as desired).

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 2:02 PM

JoshInRI:
Thanks from Rhode Island Logos Dunce

I don't like namecalling in the forums Stick out tongue especially when it is a matter of your having/making the time to slowly learn the ins and outs of basic logos use compounded with a library that offers options far beyond basic. I've been thinking about your situation and wonder if it might be worth committing to understanding one video or hint a day - actually doing what is being shown, repeating a video/tip each day until you feel that you've "got it", then moving on to the next. I'd commit to helping you chose the order to keeping the learning slop reasonable.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 2:05 PM

JoshInRI:
One of the many things that has always baffled me about Logos Bible Software is why more than one linkset exists?

One way in which this is helpful is when you're studying parallel passages (Kings & Chronicles, e.g., or the Synoptics).

Another thing I use it for is that I have a Bible open where all my hyperlinks go. It's helpful to have that linked with other resources, or quickly change the reference on other open resources I have (e.g. commentaries, cross references, etc.).

A third way this can be helpful is to have one for NT and another for OT. Often when looking at certain passages it's helpful to have both open, and both linked to support resources appropriate to those passages (e.g., Isaiah and Isaiah fulfillment passages in the NT).

I would not link a Bible and several commentaries to different link sets, but then I generally don't link Bibles and commentaries, since reading commentaries can mess up my location in my Bible (the structure of Word Commentaries is especially problematic here, IMHO).

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 2:58 PM

thanks everyone...still looking for the definitive video training link or an online primer on logos linking and the nuances to it  The multiview sounded promising.  When I venture off to link items i see various options including "send hyperlinks here" which is baffling and unclear to me still.

Sometimes I feel like someone who has a brand new car and has not been told the basics of running it but is allowed to play with the cupholder, radio, and windows instead.

....as for the dunce name...just me being funny and a little truthful (learning curve).

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 3:11 PM

JoshInRI:

still looking for ... an online primer on logos linking

What's wrong with the https://wiki.logos.com/Linking_Resources help?

Since it's a wiki, if you think it's too complex, you can edit the article to improve it.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 3:48 PM

Josh what information is missing from the Wiki that would help you out with understanding linksets?

PetahChristian:

JoshInRI:

still looking for ... an online primer on logos linking

What's wrong with the https://wiki.logos.com/Linking_Resources help?

Since it's a wiki, if you think it's too complex, you can edit the article to improve it.

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 4:31 PM

http://www.logosbiblesoftwaretraining.com/videos/layouts/

At 3:50 Mark Barnes presents the basis of linksets.  Any video by him is really really good.  See more here:

http://www.logosbiblesoftwaretraining.com/

I don't use linksets a lot, but am very thankful for them when I do.  I use up to 2-3 linksets sometimes.  

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Sean | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 5:01 PM

In a typical layout I use linkset A for my Bible(s) and commentaries. 

I do a lot of writing, so I use B for two different English dictionaries and thesaurus.

Occasionally I will use C to link Bible or theological dictionaries together. That's of more limited utility as they'll not have identical content entries, but sometimes it's helpful.

And although many many people like the similar "multiview resources" function, I've yet to have a scenario where it's more useful than separate linked panes, plus there the hassle of having to undo it when I just want (say) the Bible by itself without the other resources.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 5:09 PM

Sean:
plus there the hassle of having to undo it when I just want (say) the Bible by itself without the other resources.

This issue is being addressed to some extent in the current beta.

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Sean | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 5:45 PM

MJ. Smith:

Sean:
plus there the hassle of having to undo it when I just want (say) the Bible by itself without the other resources.

This issue is being addressed to some extent in the current beta.

Oh, that's nice to hear!

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 5:50 PM

Sean:
Oh, that's nice to hear!

Right now you can use shortcuts to quickly turn multiview on/off. For example, you can have shortcut icons for the following:

  • NIV on its own
  • NIV with NKJV
  • NIV with ESV
  • NIV with NKJV, ESV, KJV

Clicking on those shortcuts wil reconfigure the multiview pane it just one click.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 5:54 PM

Mark Barnes:

Right now you can use shortcuts to quickly turn multiview on/off. For example, you can have shortcut icons for the following:

  • NIV on its own
  • NIV with NKJV
  • NIV with ESV
  • NIV with NKJV, ESV, KJV

Clicking on those shortcuts wil reconfigure the multiview pane it just one click.

Sweet! I usually don't bother reconfiguring it or turning it off, simply because it's not a one-step process. So looking forward to this feature! Thanks, beta testers!

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 5:58 PM

PetahChristian:
Sweet! I usually don't bother reconfiguring it or turning it off, simply because it's not a one-step process. So looking forward to this feature! Thanks, beta testers!

I was describing the current, non-beta behaviour. The beta adds to this by allowing you to save multi-view sets within the multiview tool.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2016 6:13 PM

Mark Barnes:

PetahChristian:
Sweet! I usually don't bother reconfiguring it or turning it off, simply because it's not a one-step process. So looking forward to this feature! Thanks, beta testers!

I was describing the current, non-beta behaviour. The beta adds to this by allowing you to save multi-view sets within the multiview tool.

Oh, ha ha, thanks for the tip! I hadn't stumbled upon it, and it's not obvious where you assign shortcuts for different sets. Quickly searching Help and wiki didn't result in answers, I'll probably have to watch some Pro videos to get up to speed on everything that Multi View can do.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 2 2016 10:55 AM

No Pro video required, just set it up with day NIV and ESV and drag it to shortcut bar, then reconfigure, say with NIV and NIV study bible and drag that to shortcut bar. Simple as that. 

PetahChristian:

Mark Barnes:

PetahChristian:
Sweet! I usually don't bother reconfiguring it or turning it off, simply because it's not a one-step process. So looking forward to this feature! Thanks, beta testers!

I was describing the current, non-beta behaviour. The beta adds to this by allowing you to save multi-view sets within the multiview tool.

Oh, ha ha, thanks for the tip! I hadn't stumbled upon it, and it's not obvious where you assign shortcuts for different sets. Quickly searching Help and wiki didn't result in answers, I'll probably have to watch some Pro videos to get up to speed on everything that Multi View can do.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 2 2016 10:58 AM

I suppose if honesty is the new requirement, I use 5, keeping 1 free for temporary use.

The reason is a large layout ... multiple links allow better performance (software only checks a link, not all of them each move).

I don't regard multiview as an alternative.  On a laptop, basically 4 columns max, else unreadable. And multiple linked multiviews use a nutty workaround.

So, I use multiviews where limited linked participants, and normal links for the much larger groups.


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