ChristianDiscourse.com

GaoLu
GaoLu Member Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

ChristianDiscourse.com has been working very poorly for quite a while with 502, 503 and other errors.  FL seems to be offering no effective response or fix.  Is there any intent to make the site work?

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  • Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)
    Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) MVP Posts: 23,159

    Gao Lu said:

    ChristianDiscourse.com has been working very poorly for quite a while with 502, 503 and other errors

    Noticed ChristianDiscourse.com has discussion => ~~[…502, 503, 504…]~~

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

    Gao Lu said:

    ChristianDiscourse.com has been working very poorly for quite a while with 502, 503 and other errors

    Noticed ChristianDiscourse.com has discussion => ~~[…502, 503, 504…]~~

    Keep Smiling Smile

    Yes.  But no response from Faithlife there.  A couple of us have contacted FL directly and the results can be seen in that thread--if you can access it.

  • Doc B
    Doc B Member Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭

    Gao Lu said:

    as been working very poorly for quite a while

    So if I were to argue with you about how well the site was working, would that be considered a theological debate? [:D] [:D] [:D] [:D]

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  • Robert M. Warren
    Robert M. Warren Member Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭

    Doc B said:

    So if I were to argue with you about how well the site was working, would that be considered a theological debate? Big SmileBig SmileBig SmileBig Smile

    Only if the argument related to primary vs. secondary causes and and their compatibility.

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  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭

    Doc B said:

    Gao Lu said:

    as been working very poorly for quite a while

    So if I were to argue with you about how well the site was working, would that be considered a theological debate? Big SmileBig SmileBig SmileBig Smile

    Wikipedia: Augustine of Hippo defined the Latin equivalent, theologia, as "reasoning or discussion concerning the Deity."

    I think it would be!  Let me give an illustration:

    Years ago I was flying TWA (remember way back then?).  I was kicked off a flight because it was overbooked.  Then I was informed there were no more flights for 3 days due to all flights already being overbooked. Upon further questioning, I learned that I could get no voucher for a hotel or meals because the whole situation was brought about by bad weather which was "an act of God."  I then asked her if she believed in God.  She wasn't sure.  I then asked if God had overbooked the flights.  She asked me to please go to the end of the line and wait for further developments.   

    If getting kicked off overbooked flights is a theological discussion, then surely getting kicked off a website would be.

  • Michael S.
    Michael S. Member Posts: 674 ✭✭

    Gao Lu said:

     Upon further questioning, I learned that I could get no voucher for a hotel or meals because the whole situation was brought about by bad weather which was "an act of God."  I then asked her if she believed in God.  She wasn't sure.  I then asked if God had overbooked the flights.  She asked me to please go to the end of the line and wait for further developments.   

    If getting kicked off overbooked flights is a theological discussion, then surely getting kicked off a website would be.

    I got quite a good little chuckle from this...Thank you! 

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭

    RIP ChristianDiscourse.com.

    Faithlife recently did maintenance on their servers, but CD apparently escaped.  I worked hard to contribute to ChristianDiscouse and try to help build it into something beneficial that would attract helpful contributors, as did some others. I imagined a place where, eventually, knowledgeable, capable people with diversity of views could gather to share understanding, a place where the knowledgeable could help build up those hungering for more. We were not quite there yet, but although success was slow I maintained hope.  Now, for an extended time, the site seldom works or and works unreliably.  Naturally I am disappointed.  

    I have received no feed back from Logos / Faithlife other than acknowledgement of receipt of my request for attention.  Others have had similar experience. I would offer quotes of vague responses from Faithlife, but the site remains down.  

    Maybe no one at Faithlife cares or they are too busy with other things or they want the site to go away (very possible) and this message will disappear into the ether.  

    If so, I tried.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Gao Lu said:

    RIP ChristianDicsourse.com.

    That isn't spelled right. When I visit http://christiandiscourse.com it works for me. 

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  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭

    Fixed the spelling.  Yes, it is back up and working now.  Sometimes it will work for a few minutes.  Maybe it will stick this time.

    [Edit] Alas.  A few minutes later it is down.

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,101

    Sorry I don't have an official answer for you yet. When we have one, we'll post it here.

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭
  • (‾◡◝)
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    Gao Lu said:

    RIP ChristianDiscourse.com

    Not to be a negative Nelly but, frankly, I am amazed they keep it and that it has continued as long as it has.  Every time I have looked at it, it appears that maybe 10 people at the most use it on any sort of a regular basis.  Apart from the regulars, I know that it has also been wonderful for redirecting the unrestrained, contentious, and/or otherwise bellicose persons of the regular forums and, perhaps, it pays for itself in that service alone.  

    But still, I wonder if it isn't draining precious resources away from the primary goal(s) of FaithLife.   [^o)]

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    JRS said:

    But still, I wonder if it isn't draining precious resources away from the primary goal(s) of FaithLife.

    If I remember correctly, it was designed by an intern doing a summer project. It was useful in that the intern gained experience and secondly, that FL would have a place to direct controversial threads. 

    That also explains why there hasn't been much work on it. 

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  • Fred Robbins
    Fred Robbins Member Posts: 56 ✭✭

    What I have read, so far, from this site, has been very interesting and knowledgeable from all views. So far, it has been polite and I hope it stays that way. It would be nice to get many more people to contribute their ideas.

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭

    JRS said:

    Gao Lu said:

    RIP ChristianDiscourse.com

    Not to be a negative Nelly but, frankly, I am amazed they keep it and that it has continued as long as it has.  Every time I have looked at it, it appears that maybe 10 people at the most use it on any sort of a regular basis.  Apart from the regulars, I know that it has also been wonderful for redirecting the unrestrained, contentious, and/or otherwise bellicose persons of the regular forums and, perhaps, it pays for itself in that service alone.  

    But still, I wonder if it isn't draining precious resources away from the primary goal(s) of FaithLife.   Hmm

    I have to agree with you.  I just keep believing it has potential to be something much greater, given the folks available around the FL community, keep hoping some "lure" would eventually float by to entice the greater community's interest.   

    Lack of support and non-existent moderation has not helped that cause. Like any such site, there have been challenges, but I think they pale in comparison to potential.  

    I do not know the present problem, although it almost appears like a sustained external network attack (DoS??).  Maybe someone has a motive?  Maybe it isn't that.  

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    JRS said:

    But still, I wonder if it isn't draining precious resources away from the primary goal(s) of FaithLife.

    If I remember correctly, it was designed by an intern doing a summer project. It was useful in that the intern gained experience and secondly, that FL would have a place to direct controversial threads. 

    That also explains why there hasn't been much work on it. 

    This is another instance where Faithlife might benefit from very willing, carefully selected volunteers.  

  • Wolfgang Schneider
    Wolfgang Schneider Member Posts: 679 ✭✭✭

    For some time now it appears to have disappeared behind "Error 502 Bad Gateway" curtain ... or more likely it has been silently killed and buried? has there been a notice anywhere that Logos/Faithlife was going to shut it down?

    Wolfgang Schneider

    (BibelCenter)

  • David Paul
    David Paul Member Posts: 6,073 ✭✭✭

    Sorry I don't have an official answer for you yet. When we have one, we'll post it here.

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  • David Paul
    David Paul Member Posts: 6,073 ✭✭✭

    I had some conversations on CD that I had plans of using for books that I am writing. If I had known it was going to just disappear, I would have downloaded that material. I hope this site will return with the previous contributions intact at some point.

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  • Kevin A Lewis
    Kevin A Lewis Member Posts: 758 ✭✭

    Oh

    Therein lies a lesson - computers are not reliable - and the internet even less so!!!

    But the Word or God stands forever.

    Sorry I couldn't resist

    Shalom

  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭

    Oh

    Therein lies a lesson - computers are not reliable - and the internet even less so!!!

    But the Word or God stands forever.

    Sorry I couldn't resist

    Shalom

    [Y]

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    Floyd

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  • Daniel NM
    Daniel NM Member Posts: 174 ✭✭

    Sorry I don't have an official answer for you yet. When we have one, we'll post it here.

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    There was/is a thread where Logos Forums users were discussing an alternative ChristianDiscourse.com following its server issues. In short, ChristianDiscourse.net was established.

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  • Jan Krohn
    Jan Krohn Member Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭

    I had some conversations on CD that I had plans of using for books that I am writing. If I had known it was going to just disappear, I would have downloaded that material. I hope this site will return with the previous contributions intact at some point.

    All the material is accessible through www.archive.org. However, recovering it, either programatically or manually, would be extremely tedious. I've not strated doing that since all the effort would be for nothing if FL should bring back the original CD forum, or claim copyright on the contents which would prevent me from placing it somewhere on the web.

    But let me at least help you recover the content for your book.

    What do you remember about it? URL, date, your CD user name, any short fragment of the content?

  • Bill Cook
    Bill Cook Member Posts: 494 ✭✭

    Daniel NM said:

    Sorry I don't have an official answer for you yet. When we have one, we'll post it here.

    time

    There was/is a thread where Logos Forums users were discussing an alternative ChristianDiscourse.com following its server issues. In short, ChristianDiscourse.net was established.

    Yes, and that has turned into a wild political foray not a forum for religious discussion.

  • Dave L
    Dave L Member Posts: 151 ✭✭

    Much of it has gone political. But I post there regularly and stick to Christian ethics and theology. It would be great if others reading this would join in. I believe it is one of the better, and most user friendly sites on the net. Special thanks to Jan for all of the work he put into it.

  • abondservant
    abondservant Member Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭

    Doc B said:

    So if I were to argue with you about how well the site was working, would that be considered a theological debate? Big SmileBig SmileBig SmileBig Smile

    Only if the argument related to primary vs. secondary causes and and their compatibility.


    OR if we discussed whether the outages were predestined, or the result of free will.

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