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Robert C. Beckman Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 11:36 AM

1. In guides....when a hyperlink appears include the option to include the section, definition or article in-line. This would allow a single seamless research document. As things stand when you hit a link in the passage or exegetical guide you open the resources, from which you presumably cut/paste notes into the notes section of the guide....why not just pull it in in the first place.

2 In concordance....columns for additional resources....I'm getting ready to preach from John so I have a concordance document set up to analyze statistics just in John.... What if??? I could add a column for Matthew, Or the synoptics, or 1 John. The Concordance tool because of how it addresses and compiles data is the first step to better integrated data analysis and visualization.

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Steve Maling | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 12:20 PM

Parallel alignment of the Greek words (not just pericopes) in Aland's Synopsis of the Four Gospels. Some years ago (Logos 4? Logos 5?) it was possible to set Burton's Harmony of the Synoptic Gospels to Greek to disclose the varying word, clause, and sentence orders within parallel pericopes. An English example is Throckmorton's Gospel Parallels which appears to be no longer available.

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Harry Hahne | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 2:22 PM

Steve Maling:
Parallel alignment of the Greek words (not just pericopes) in Aland's Synopsis of the Four Gospels.

Yes! Yes

The utility of the print edition is considerably greater than the Logos digital edition due to the alignment between Greek (and English) words.

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Bernhard | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 19 2017 2:43 PM

Nick:

This has probably already been requested by now...  but the ability to import Sermons from .docx files in order to have them searchable under "my content."   

Not sure, if you know that you can already import sermons as personal books. See this page for details: https://wiki.logos.com/Sermon_and_Illustration_Support (and this one for more general information about personal books: https://wiki.logos.com/personal_books in case you need it).

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David Betts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 24 2017 6:49 AM

Although I have MW11, CED, and COED prioritized, often MW10 pops up when a word is double clicked, although that word is in MW11. This needs fixed.

Option for a keyboard keystroke to start OR pause [Ctrl / Cmd+R] when reading aloud is enabled. Normally space bar = page-down. When reading aloud, space bar could (should) be enabled to be used for pause/restart, as in VLC player. This would be very handy.

Also while reading aloud there is a much-too-long-pause between chapters when on iPhone HotSpot. Sometimes I must hit pause then play more than twice to restart after chapter pause.

This reiterates the need to have ESV, for example, to be downloaded to device [I have plenty of room] to prevent such long pauses and use up limited data plan. [DLO = DownLoadOnce].

Logos Phrasebook

Right click on a word and an option is “Look up.” But when two words together are highlighted “Look up” is not an option: e.g. rex socius  [A History of the New Testament Times...]. This is another example of words or phrases in Logos resources that should be defined within a Logos dictionary or Phrasebook without requiring “outside assistance.” Words not found in any Logos dictionary or encyclopedia should be included in this Phrasebook. (what's in Logos should be defined within Logos).

 

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David Betts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 24 2017 7:35 AM

My apologies:  My comment about a Logos Phrasebook was premature. Right click on two words, then in pop-up window: Search: then scroll down to "all resources" or "everything." This will find more info although some is in Latin or Greek, etc.

[What's in Logos should stay in Logos]

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Julian West | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 25 2017 8:28 PM
  • Google shouldn't be able to find Bible text better than my Logos Platinum 

  • Get logs out of Documents.  I've had to modify security permissions to prevent Logos from logging there and keeping OneDrive busy and triggering conflicts when I move between desktop, laptop, and Surface

  • Memorization tool based on Leitner's spaced repetition

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David Betts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 31 2017 5:50 AM

[What's in Logos should stay in Logos]

“hic noster Hierosolymarius”

(https://ref.ly/logosres/hsnttmsjss?ref=VolumePage.V+1%2c+p+210&off=39)

For Logos to be more useful would be for phrases like this to be found in a Logos Phrasebook. I have spent a few futile minutes with no success to find a definition on the web or in Logos. Any and all words or phrases in Logos should be defined therein. Undefined words and phrases leaves the understanding incomplete - unacceptable for what we spend on Logos.

[New discoveries like this goes into my Note file "New Words and Phrases" for future reference

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 4 2018 9:18 AM

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Search assistant option to use OR not as desired (annoying when power user typing search parameters has to wait for automatic assistant) => BUG: *Seriously annoying* search-box behavior 

One more thread about automatic search assistance annoyance => Auto-populating: why so slow???!!!

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 5 2018 6:41 PM
  • Discontinue all or almost all of the Portfolio -levels of Libraries. Why? The push seems to be towards offering this level for most of the denominational lines and also the standard line. There must be a limited number outright purchases of this level of a very broad bundle and they seem to be so broad that I think other, more specific or discounted bundles should suffice for potential customers of all the Portfolio -levels. And then there's Collector's but that's fine: A few will want to do a large purchase in one go not having to to piece it together and and for them who can do it it's a cheaper way in the very long run, to get a very large library, than piecemeal purchase of collections and bundles, so they should have this option left still. However, there doesn't need to be anything in between Diamond and Collector's. For those who simply can't afford Collector's there's still two options: Either buy two different Diamond Libraries, or buy one Diamond Library now, and during the next major version after that upgrade with yet another for example Diamond Level library. So with a discontinuation of Portfolio I would expect only some amazement regarding the step taken, not much dissatisfaction if the decision would have been combined with making some Diamond level Libraries even better than now, for Logos 8 and Verbum 8.
  • Keep up the good work of re-shuffling low- and mid-level base-packages. It was succesfull in version 7: Like I wished for during the previous phase of polling for opinions for the major forthcoming version i.e. 7, academic titles were introduced on low levels and there's more scholarly quality/freshness in mid-level (which also two Years having elapsed demands), without an overdose of commentaries, yet there's still something for a start. I made the bulk of my base-package purchases since L2 (Lvl 4 and Catholic Collection) and L4 OLL, under this current version 7 which shows my contentment. I'm a person who is not easily convinced or easily fooled, so please whatever You do, DON'T emphasize the total number of resources new to a user - at least not as a plain number under a certain level - put a disclaimer on all the base-package product pages advising something to the effect that the sheer number of volumes is not to be taken as (the only) indication of suitability (this would also make it easier to talk to those totally unfamiliar with Bible Study software or who don't collect books, about the benefits when the simple number of total resources doesn't shine through too glaringly), - because that number is non-desriptive of both value and quality.
    To me, choosing commentaries is akin to choosing English Bible versions. Please don't over-stuff the Christmas surprise sock with full or NT-only commentary -sets and English Bibles!! They are really a major turn-off for me!! I mean this. I just won't buy if NIV11 and CSB16 are both there in most base-packages. If You can't think of any other way: Please make base-packages slightly customizable: That customer can when wanting to order drop off one or two English Bible versions for a $1 deduction each, and drop off one NT-only-commentary set for a deduction of 1/33 of the regular price. Those droped off ones would not even technically be licensed. I can't find interest in any of the major sets that don't have under my own main account that I actually use in Bronze-Gold, particularly Standard-line Libraries, partially because I have some of that elsewhere under other platforms and some printed matter.
    Please highlight more of the very most recent and top-pick content! As of now a handful of resources shows at once with a picture on the base-package product-pages, that's not enough, it would also be better to for example put all resources written and copyrighted in 2013 and newer in bold font, except English Bibles, to make it easier for those who lack enough time eyeing the list or those like me who will do a thorough calculation if enticed but for now only want a very quick glance.
  • Find a way, if You really want to You can, to produce Encyclopedia Britannica 1911 Edition. It doesn't have to happen soon, but for funding it please find ways and please produce it at a much higher price than the current projected price! https://www.logos.com/product/33266/encyclopedia-britannica
  • Don't forget needs to pull water from the wells of non-Scriptural-canon (i.e. Ecclesiasticus, Jewish Pseudepigrapha, Christian "Gnosticism") and secular POW:s and scholarship to the extent it can be made efficiently accessible, packeted and sold i.e. I'm not talking individual cherry-picking of books: I wished for this on Dec. 13. 2016: More non-biblical databases Please throw together some a bit unique databases or some crowd-source-curated or Faithlife/Noet-hand-curated resorce collection that also includes something from ebooks.noet.com
  • Allow visibility in search-results of what has been newly added to the library: I would like to see a mode added as a feature, when searching collections, where it would be possible for results to be highlighted or categorized, I would like to have favourite searches (i.e. with search terms) saved and whenever I add a new resource to the collection (either manually or when I've bought a new resource that goes under the collection) the search results that come from those newly added resources, would be marked as "new". I suggested this too on Dec. 13. 2016: highlight searches in collections 
  • Mouse over Church Father reference - pop-ups from Worship Early Church: Anthology Historical Sources It's about the resource: Worship in the Early Church: An Anthology of Historical Sources, www.logos.com/product/31154/worship-in-the-early-church-an-anthology-of-historical-sources which I would like to compete with that ordinary ECF:s -series that has long been widely available.
    I want Logos to enable that when I have prioritised something in the Worship in the Early Church -series, that references to certain Church Fathers verses, would pop up from it, when hovering the mouse over a reference. I originally suggested this in Nov. 2013. I'm sure this would be a LOT more appreciated feature than the current vote-count tells, I guess this set also sold something when it was featured during one of the Months last Autumn.
  • Almost last but not least: Even though it has at the moment slowed down: Please further slow down putting new titles to start to gather interest on pre-pub. It will not pay to put through new books with a constant high pace. There are costs that can't be avoided: Such as negotations for whether a resource is candidate for that in the first place, writing good product pages (good such pages in itself is an asset of Faithlife), manhours for deciding all the prices and the progressivity of it. And a product that doesn't make it, causes disappointment - now that can't be avoided and it may be even more disapointment if a resource was never even a candidate in pre-pub, but still: No matter how few of the total number of books can even be spoken of in the same sentence, we already have many tens of thousands live products in the store-fronts, they are so many that Faithlife WILL struggle a bit to manage all that's already available.
    Maintaining what's being offered costs and I think that's the least avoidable factor of all things.
    So what I mean is: Just because a product probably will make it through the funding through pre-pub doesn't make it self-evident in the least that it must be put there in the first place. Please scrutinize before testing the waters with too many items!
    Once the products ship they are there forever, sometimes requiring maintenance, sometimes incurring costs and often having to be re-negotiated with publishers becaus of some espect be it quality, price/share, marketing, bundling, etcetera. Hundreds of almost identical choices for one popular topic or book of the Bible will also eventually be more of a turn-off for some than attract customers who really want to spend.
  • So instead of trying to introduce more that can potentially (i.e. just theoretically) be bought, hone the product, put a lot of work into quality re-shuffling so that the real value and benefit of what's being marketed the most stays high. I commend You for having made the software a bit faster - which I know was very hard and peristent work and for which we can also be to some part thankful to the (potential of and ongoing development of the programming-environment of) operating systems.
  • Instead of the usual generally aggressive approach and development, take a step back. Don't be in constant fear of the size of the ship: I can imagine what it feels like to have such a multifaceted product with maintenance costs and dependant mostly on demanding customers with thousands of $$ to put into it each. But just let go of some of the fear anyway because the current picture You get of Faithlife as a customer from how it is to be one on a practical level having to for example comb through the store and forums at least Weekly is that what's offered and particularly what's potentially offered new, changes constantly in so unpredictable ways, that it's a bit hard to know what to even wish for regarding new books. So many different approaches to marketing and sales-campaigns and bundles has already been tried out, that I would suggest You look a bit at what worked and do that again! A large part of customers will notice when both the company is happy and the customer is happy. To make room for what works, stop with some that feels like mandatory and traditions. Don't be a slave to two-Year major version releseas: It's unsustainable: Some base-packages are still with version 6 features and You want to put through version 8 in less than a Year? There are more base-packages being assembled than ever before and You renew them as fast as ever? I don't think that's sustainable, do You? I know sometimes overly long contracts can in themselves be more effort but I doubt impossible! Two Years just seems a short time for bundling-contracts, although I'm not specialized in that. But with the growing platform and abundance of choices and how it showed in that Journal bundles took a while to produce, I still suspect two Years honestly is a bit too short time for a new major version release! I know feature-wise it's more floating now with Logos Now and Verbum Now - I'm a customer.
  • Oh, and make a separate column for prioritizing Scripture, under the Library -button in the desktop software. Or at least that's what I would use, and make the Scripture prioritations easily sharable through Documents or faithlife.com (as You can tell I use different versions for different parts).

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 5 2018 8:50 PM

Mobile annoyance => Merry Christmas, Copy and Paste with References is Here!

Mobile User Voice suggestion from Apr 2013 has 77 votes (# 17 overall) => https://logosmobile.uservoice.com/forums/190765-logos-mobile-apps/suggestions/3808513-copy-paste-with-reference-so-when-posting-the

Noticed some mobile suggestions with fewer votes have been started.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 6 2018 6:08 AM

I would like a program option for ALL RESOURCE SETTINGS to be LAYOUT SPECIFIC.

This may well have already been requested (perhaps by me Confused), but by the very nature of what a layout is and the purpose it serves, it seems only logical to me that resource settings should be layout specific--or ...at least have an option to work that way in program settings.

WHY?  Here are just a couple of reasons.

  1. I may want a resource to be included in multi-view in one layout, but not in another.
  2. I may want the text size of a resource to be smaller in one layout than in another, simply because less space is allocated to the resource in one layout than another.
  3. I may want one form of interlinear display used in one layout, but a different form (or no interlinear at all) in another layout. 
  4. I may want different visual filters for a resource in one layout than in another, based on the purpose of the layout.

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 6 2018 11:01 AM

I wish Visual copy for Personal book.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 6 2018 11:05 AM

Tes:

I wish Visual copy for Personal book.

This has long been possible. If you are having troubles with it, please create a new thread and provide appropriate details 

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 6 2018 11:14 AM

alabama24:

Tes:

I wish Visual copy for Personal book.

This has long been possible. If you are having troubles with it, please create a new thread and provide appropriate details 

Wow , thank you Alabama. And thank you Faithlife. I did n't know that. 

Blessings in Christ.

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 2 2018 4:09 PM

Justin Gatlin:

  1. The fuzzy Bible search is lousy. The response to a lot of early feedback was defensive and mostly just repeated that what we really wanted from the function was not possible with the way it was built. I am sorry you wasted time and money building it in a way that is not compatible with basic user requests, but that does not change the need to look at those requests and go back to the drawing board.

Justin: thanks for the frank feedback. I'd love to hear your ideas about where fuzzy Bible search falls short: can you elaborate? (feel free to start a new Forum thread on this topic if appropriate)

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 2 2018 5:00 PM

Andrew116:

Further on the theme of 'don't give us new features, make the program better to use'...

Frequently I look things up in topic guide and factbook and find no results, or very limited results, even though dictionaries in my library do have entries on exactly that topic. 

For example, yesterday I looked up the Council of Nicea. It returned 2 journal articles (great!) and nothing else.  It should have found at least some of the following: (but it didn't)

So 1 thing on my wishlist is that Factbook better helps me find the things I already have. As I said before, it doesn't sound as good in marketing language as '10,000 new features'... but when people find the software really helpful, they will tell their friends / peers... it will sell. 

Andrew: thanks for these examples. For the first case, I believe we haven't yet done the processing to integrate this resource into Factbook: I've asked that we queue it for processing. The second and third are data bugs: we haven't captured the spelling difference of Nicea vs Nicaea, or the naming difference of Nicene Councils (we also have separate pages for First Council of Nicaea and Second Council of Nicaea: these should at least be linked to the others). We'll get these fixed.

The last one isn't found because it's a subsection of an article about Christology: i don't see us solving that problem anytime soon. However, for these kinds of historical events, you can find the event on the timeline, and a right-click will give you a list of all mentions of the date that we've been able to identify as related. That's not a great answer, and not the same as pointing to reference content on that subject. But it may be helpful in some cases.

We want Factbook to be a great first stop for researching topics in Logos, so please pass along other cases where Factbook is falling short, or other suggestions for how to improve it.

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 2 2018 6:02 PM

David Betts:

- PLEASE Correct the Before and After:Biblical Sites that shows the Temple being built in place of the Dome of the Rock. The true location of the Temple was at the City of David, approximately ½ kilometer NEAR the Gihon Springs.  PLEASE do some honest research. This is WW3 material as shown!

David, we're looking into this.

David Betts:

- A “Global Back Button / key-combo.” For example, I click a link from m.Ed video to go to another resource, and then another, then lose my way back.

Does Tools/History do what you want? (i know it's not a button)

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Armin | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 2 2018 6:06 PM

For me, the single most important wish is to improve usability, especially when it comes to searches. If we could get Google-like searches in Logos, this would be amazing. 

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 2 2018 6:10 PM

Harry Hahne:

Steve Maling:
Parallel alignment of the Greek words (not just pericopes) in Aland's Synopsis of the Four Gospels.

Yes! Yes

The utility of the print edition is considerably greater than the Logos digital edition due to the alignment between Greek (and English) words.

This is different than your request, but the Parallel Gospel Reader interactive can highlight matching words (dynamically). It only supports English texts at present: but you can select Aland's Synopsis (in English) at the top, hover over a word in one column, and the matching words in the other columns are highlighted.

You can also link this panel to another panel (like Aland's Greek synopsis): that won't show highlights, but it will at least scroll to the right position.

Word-level alignment of the Gospels is on our internal wishlist as well.

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