Marking books as read

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Aaron Knotts | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Apr 11 2010 3:00 AM

I came across this discussion, but can't find anything in L4 (forgive my poor searching if I have completely missed something)

http://community.logos.com/forums/p/2075/15904.aspx#15904

 

I am wondering how to list the books I want to read, am reading or have read - similar to a Facebook application I use for print resources.

I dare say the "currently reading" is obvious if I make a reading plan for each book, however, to list those already read, and flag those that I wish to read would be very useful, as I endeavour to work my way through my library.

Any suggestions? One mentioned in the above L3 forum was to create a collection and add titles once read. 

While sitting here and pondering the [Post] button, I thought perhaps using the Mytags to tag books could also work....might go and have a play with that right now. Hmm

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 3:08 AM

I remember a thread at one point about someone coming up with an effective way to do this through Notes. With linking now working in the Beta this becomes easier...if your using the beta. Tags can be quite effective for this, as you have mentioned. When you come across a book, tag it as "read". When you start reading it change that tag to "reading" when you've completed it, change the tag again.tagging used in combination with rating could be very powerful for this. Just set up a collection for mytag:read, then you can open the collection to view the resources on your list.

Another option is to use favorites. Set up a "reading list" folder, which contains three folders, future reading, current reading, and completed reading. Move them through the books as you complete them. The main problem with this is it opens it to the saved location, not the last read location. The suggestion for notes was a good one because it included instructions on how to manipulate the hyperlink to always open the resource to the last read location.

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Aaron Knotts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 3:24 AM

Philip Spitzer:

I remember a thread at one point about someone coming up with an effective way to do this through Notes. With linking now working in the Beta this becomes easier...if you're using the beta.

Hi Philip. Thanks for your reply. I am not using the beta, a bit too chicken as L4 barely runs effectively for me on my computer. I figure introducing any potential bugs (an assumption of the beta on my part) might just render it too painful for me.

As for Notes......this is an area of Logos that I have yet to implement or even explore in a functional way.  I like the idea of what you have described, but need to really take a look at how to get the most out of notes and try to use the feature. I am frustrated to some degree that I am not getting the most out of Logos and attending the MP Seminars is out of the question, unless he decides to take a trip down here to the South.....(VERY South)

Philip Spitzer:
Tags can be quite effective for this......Just set up a collection for mytag:read, then you can open the collection to view the resources on your list.

This sounds easy enough, and quite practical....but the notes idea is getting the better of me Big Smile

Philip Spitzer:
Another option is to use favorites....The main problem with this is it opens it to the saved location, not the last read location. 

Yes, this sounds less "user friendly" but I appreciate the suggestion nonetheless. 

thanks for your prompt and very useful reply.

 

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 3:55 AM

I believe using tags, as Philip suggested, is the best method of marking when a book has been read. That allows you to easily make a dynamic collection so you can search a recently read book.

If you want to use a note file too, you can copy a hyperlink and then strip out the location. Place the link in a note file. Then when ever you click on the link it will open the book to the last-closed place.

libronixdls:jump|pos=LLS-AOL:0<QUE.12>.772.0|res=LLS:4000QUESTANSR  is a hyperlink consisting of a location and a resource ID. If you strip the ID like this: libronixdls:jump|res=LLS:4000QUESTANSR the link will open the book as described above.

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I use www.librarything.com. There is column to document that you have read the book. A can person can also make an e-book file to more closely keep tract. 

 

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Jonathan West | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 7:06 AM

I was thinking about this only yesterday so I set it up in this way. I tag a book with one of three tags ("TOREAD, READING or DONE"). I then have three collections, one for each of these tags. It is very simple and works effectly. This way I can tag books I want to read ... one could also set up a collection where none of these tags apply (i.e. books you have neither read nor have tagged as wanting to read ...)

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Aaron Knotts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 1:47 PM

R. A. Krueger:

I use www.librarything.com. There is column to document that you have read the book. A can person can also make an e-book file to more closely keep tract. 

 

Thanks for this website link, it does a similar task to the facebook utility I was using, perhaps somewhat more advanced. At present I like the idea of managing the list within the Logos software itself...trying to have only Logos open on my poor old laptop to limit the "sluggishness".

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Aaron Knotts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 1:51 PM

Kevin Becker:

I believe using tags, as Philip suggested, is the best method of marking when a book has been read. That allows you to easily make a dynamic collection so you can search a recently read book.

If you want to use a note file too, you can copy a hyperlink and then strip out the location. Place the link in a note file. Then when ever you click on the link it will open the book to the last-closed place.

libronixdls:jump|pos=LLS-AOL:0<QUE.12>.772.0|res=LLS:4000QUESTANSR  is a hyperlink consisting of a location and a resource ID. If you strip the ID like this: libronixdls:jump|res=LLS:4000QUESTANSR the link will open the book as described above.

Excellent! Thank you Kevin. The example of how to hyperlink is much appreciated. And it seems that tagging is both feasible (in terms of ease) and useful in conjunction with dynamic collections.

Now I need to pull myself away from the forums and videos and get back to reading! Angel 

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Aaron Knotts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 1:55 PM

Jonathan West:

I was thinking about this only yesterday so I set it up in this way. I tag a book with one of three tags ("TOREAD, READING or DONE"). I then have three collections, one for each of these tags. It is very simple and works effectly. This way I can tag books I want to read ... one could also set up a collection where none of these tags apply (i.e. books you have neither read nor have tagged as wanting to read ...)

"Great minds think alike"...thank you for sharing how you have set it up. I am going to run with this and get my head around using hyperlinked notes along with it too.

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Jonathan West | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 2:11 PM

If you set up a collection for "READING" not sure you need hyperlinked notes - not sure what it adds, since whenever you open a book from the collection it will open to where you got to last time ...

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 2:38 PM

Keep in mind that tagging is no longer restricted to the library window. If you are reading a book from a search result and want to tag it, simply click the circled "i" in the upper right corner and you can tag/rate the resource. Not sure how long ago this was added, it might have even been there since the initial release. But it wasn't in the very earliest beta's and I just "discovered" it the other day.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 2:44 PM

Philip Spitzer:

Tags can be quite effective for this, as you have mentioned. When you come across a book, tag it as "read". When you start reading it change that tag to "reading" when you've completed it, change the tag again.....Just set up a collection for mytag:read, then you can open the collection to view the resources on your list.

Jonathan's later suggestion of tags TOREAD, READING, and DONE would work better, because mytag:read would pick up both the books marked read and the books marked reading, which isn't what you'd want.

Jonathan West:

I was thinking about this only yesterday so I set it up in this way. I tag a book with one of three tags ("TOREAD, READING or DONE"). I then have three collections, one for each of these tags. It is very simple and works effectly. This way I can tag books I want to read ... one could also set up a collection where none of these tags apply (i.e. books you have neither read nor have tagged as wanting to read ...)

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Aaron Knotts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 2:51 PM

Rosie Perera:

Jonathan's later suggestion of tags TOREAD, READING, and DONE would work better, because mytag:read would pick up both the books marked read and the books marked reading, which isn't what you'd want.

Thanks Rosie, (and of course Jonathan)...I had noticed his careful choice of wording for the tags and was going to comment...but you beat me to it Big Smile

Really appreciate all the help and advice on these forums...you are a great bunch! (I am learning lots....certainly want to get the most out of L4)

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Aaron Knotts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 2:56 PM

Philip Spitzer:

Keep in mind that tagging is no longer restricted to the library window. If you are reading a book from a search result and want to tag it, simply click the circled "i" in the upper right corner and you can tag/rate the resource. Not sure how long ago this was added, it might have even been there since the initial release. But it wasn't in the very earliest beta's and I just "discovered" it the other day.

Philip....the resource information pane (circled "i") seems to replace the text of the book I am reading now....I used to have it display as a sub pane off to the right of my open book, any ideas how I can get it to return to that layout?  

or is that the way it does it in the library tab only that I am "remembering"???Confused

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 3:02 PM

Aaron Knotts:

Philip....the resource information pane (circled "i") seems to replace the text of the book I am reading now....I used to have it display as a sub pane off to the right of my open book, any ideas how I can get it to return to that layout?  

or is that the way it does it in the library tab only that I am "remembering"???Confused

Information in the library pane appears to the right. Information through the circled-i-thing-a-ma-bobber replaces the text  you are reading until you hit "Done." I am holding back some on my use of tags until a tag manager of some sort is provided. Suppose you mark 15 books as "TOREAD" and then later want to remove those tags all at once. your only course of action so far, at least to my knowledge, is to select all 15 books in the library window and click "remove tags" which will remove tags you want to keep as well. Going one by one is manageable with 15, but not with 50.

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Aaron Knotts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 3:08 PM

Philip Spitzer:

Information in the library pane appears to the right. Information through the circled-i-thing-a-ma-bobber replaces the text  you are reading until you hit "Done."

Nuts, I like the way it works in the library, would like it to do that when reading a book too. Oh well....can't have everything.

Philip Spitzer:
I am holding back some on my use of tags until a tag manager of some sort is provided....

You raise an important point (to which I had not thought that far in advance....too busy reading the forum and not my books so I can tag them LOL)

Have you raised this as a suggestion on the Logos UserVoice pages?  I would gladly place votes in that direction.

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 3:39 PM

Aaron Knotts:
Have you raised this as a suggestion on the Logos UserVoice pages?  I would gladly place votes in that direction.

actually I added it right after sending you the post.

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Aaron Knotts | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 11 2010 3:45 PM

Philip Spitzer:

Aaron Knotts:
Have you raised this as a suggestion on the Logos UserVoice pages?  I would gladly place votes in that direction.

actually I added it right after sending you the post.

I assume it is this one?

http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/564609-provide-management-of-mytags

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