Another Anabaptist Suggestion

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/120998#Comment_120998

Say these authors are all Puritans, and it'll probably be put on Pre-Pub soon! (Pun intended)

Matthew C Jones

Say these authors are all Puritans, and it'll probably be put on Pre-Pub soon! (Pun intended)

I did not get the pun but you may be on to something. There are so many Puritan works in Pre-Pub I'm worried what I will do when they all start shipping. No complaints though. I would like to have Anabaptist/Mennonite works.

Russ White

Ooh... I'd really like to see an old Anabaptist/Mennonite collection, as well. Maybe they would be easier to publish than the Puritans, since they wouldn't have to be so... pure. Sorry, couldn't resist. Seriously, though, count me in if they ever get these in resource format.

:-)

Russ

Alan Macgregor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/121012#Comment_121012

I'd love to see some of the early Anabaptist writings in Logos. I am no expert but I was greatly moved and challenged by the volume in SCM series: The Library of Christian Classics Vol 25 Spiritual and Anabaptist Writers. I'd love to have that in Logos.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/121002#Comment_121002

We are Anababaptist NOT PUTITANS....Anabaptist or Re-Baptisers - The primary aim of the Anabaptist Radicals was not (as is usually stated) the opposition to infant baptism, still less to some theological convictions surrounding sprinkling or pouring, but the establishment of a pure church of converts in opposition to the mixed church of the world. Medieval antecedents of Anabaptist may include the Brethren Brethren of the Common Life; The Brethren and the Devotio Moderna:The the Hussite (Jan Huss , who became one of the forerunners of the Protestant Reformation...); Dutch Sacramentists and some forms of Monasticism; Waldensians also represent a faith similar to the Anabaptists. During the reformation the Anabaptist as they were LATER refered to did not perticapate in Luther Reform movement, Luther still had a church state which required alligence, which the anaqbaptis would not performed. It is often debated to wheither The Catholics or the Protestant Burned more anabaptist.. Most (what we refer to the real ) Anaqbaptist simply moved to other countries like Switzerland netherlands and Moravia a few stayed behind worshiping in the woods houses and caves ... the ones which moved to Munster barracaded themself up and fought from being tortured and killed. This is against true Anabaptist beliefs (non-resistance is An Anabaptist Creed).. However the Catholic church Decided to call the Munster Group Anabaptist and thus to this day Catholics defins Anabaptist as militant (New Catholic Encyclodedia).
PURITANS - were the result of the English reformation. They did not believe the english church had gone far enough. They also rejected the Authorizewd KJV of the Bible. The Anabaptist were also in England at this time and were killed by the hundreds. Some Baptist and Puritans were also killed but this was the refusial the Authorized KJV of the Bible.

Baptist are more than likly an offshoot of the Anabaptist according to the ETS group which held it's 2010 meeting at the New Orleans birthblace of the Conservative Resurggence of the Souther Baptist Convention. After a long discussion the various theories of Baptist Origins, The "Anabaptist Kinship" theory won out over the "English Seperatist" theory (One of both Calvanist and Puritan Origin) as being the most plausable.

Baptist probably came from the Anabaptist...... We are NOT PURITANS.... Anabaptist no exist as AMISH, MENNONITE, HUTTERITE, groups like CHARITY GOSPEL, many home churchs and many Bretherian denomination.

BEING SUCH = Anabaptist writting are not represented by LOGOS..Read my list of BOOKS - Dirk Phillips and Mino Simmons are equivelant to Calvan to a Calanist. These are but two of the many examples.

A Group which is referred too again and again in Christian History has VERY LITTLE in the LOGOS Library.

Thank you an God Bless

Fred

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/120998#Comment_120998

NOT PURITAINS - see my post at this posting blog

God Bless

Fred

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/121002#Comment_121002

NOT PURITANS - Please see my post at this blog

God bless

Fred

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/121153#Comment_121153

We are Anababaptist NOT PURITANS

I don't think Jason was saying they were Puritans. If you read his joking post carefully (I don't see any pun in it either, but it was obviously tongue-in-cheek), I think he simply meant that if you told Logos these were Puritan authors, and they didn't know any better (which of course isn't likely), they'd rush to put them into pre-pub since they seem to have a leaning towards Puritan authors in the pre-pub area. That's probably a bit of an exaggeration, but I got the joke, since there've been a steady stream of Puritan pre-pubs lately.

And I agree, that Anabaptist writings are under-represented in Logos; there have been a number of threads lately requesting more Anabaptist works. Please be patient. They do take all our requests seriously, but it takes a long time to get works into production. If they are not in the public domain, it involves securing the digital rights, and then there's the process of determining whether it would be financially viable to do all the work of tagging them into Logos format (usually for public domain works they can figure that out by putting them in Community Pricing; I'm not quite sure what the decision process is for whether to put a work in pre-pub -- I think they need to have at least secured the digital publication rights before they can do that). And all these things take time, filtering through hundreds of Suggestions posts on the forums for our ideas, negotiations with publishers, prioritizing with all the other hundreds of books they are working on, and the actual work of converting them to Logos format and putting them in their purchasing pipeline on the website. They said recently that they are planning to put out some 4000 books a year now that they're geared up to be able to do that. So hopefully some of these, and the other lists of Anabaptist resource that have been recommended, will make it in within the next year.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/121168#Comment_121168

Just saw this posted by a Logos employee on another thread:

Don't forget to send your book requests to suggest@logos.com. This is the best way for us to track and log the titles you want.

I will send this list of Anabaptist titles to that email address, but you might want to make note of it for future reference.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/121153#Comment_121153

We are Anababaptist NOT PUTITANS....Anabaptist or Re-Baptisers - The primary aim of the Anabaptist Radicals was not (as is usually stated) the opposition to infant baptism, still less to some theological convictions surrounding sprinkling or pouring, but the establishment of a pure church of converts in opposition to the mixed church of the world.

I know Anabaptists were not Puritans, I was making a joke in saying that they may get published if Logos thought they were Puritan authors, since there have been A LOT of Puritan works made available on Pre-Pub. I know Logos does there best and can't please everyone fully, at least not immediately, that's why it was only a joke.

As a Baptist, I do consider my heritage to be that of the Ana-Baptist, with the "Ana" being dropped mostly in America (but also even in some other countries of the 1500's) simply because it was shorter. But my understanding is the common claim that the name was GIVEN to the Christians because they were considered "re-baptizers" because they baptized people AFTER someone believed on Christ, and did not accept infant baptism as valid. As well as being immersionist (baptism) only (though a minority of the groups did use pouring and sprinkling until they had a clearer understanding of the scriptures). I know these are NOT the ONLY characteristics of Anabaptist and not the only reason they were persecuted, but I do believe that was why they got the "name" Anabaptist. They also weren't a "daughter" of the Catholic Church such as the protestant denominations. Zwingli even agreed with the Anabaptists about baptism, but felt it would be "too radical" to reform the church too fast, so he advocated a continuance of infant baptism and started to persecuted the Anabaptists so he wouldn't be considered "aligned with them."

I would like to have more Anabaptist / Baptist works as well! But I guess I can't complain about Baptist resources, as I did just get the Spurgeon Collection and some of the Baptist works on March Madness, and I still need to purchase the Classic Baptist Books collection http://www.logos.com/products/details/1990

"Were it not that the baptists have been grievously tormented and cut off with the knife during the past twelve hundred years, they would swarm in greater number than all the Reformers." Cardinal Hosius - 1563 A.D.

(this quote is disputed, as it has been hard to verify by researchers, the quote likely is...)

"For not so long ago I read the edict of the other prince who lamented the fate of the Anabaptists who, so we read, were pronounced heretics twelve hundred years ago and deserving of capital punishment. He wanted them to be heard and not taken as condemned without a hearing." Cardinal Hosius - 1563 A.D.

Regardless, it is a recognition by a Catholic Cardinal that the Anabaptists had been around for a much longer time than the Reformers.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/121221#Comment_121221

Wouldn't some Amish be opposed to their writings being in Logos format, since it's on a computer, which uses electricity? (as prohibited by Ordnung)

Kendall Sholtess

There are a number of works in the public domain which Logos could probably publish very quickly. There are several which can be found at www.archive.org

There is at least one or more works by Menno Simons there, as well as a biography of him. I hope the Logos folks will carefully take this into consideration.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/121223#Comment_121223

Wouldn't some Amish be opposed to their writings being in Logos format, since it's on a computer, which uses electricity? (as prohibited by Ordnung)

I doubt the Amish mind others reading their material. It may result in some "seeing the light" and abandoning modern entanglement. If this should happen, Logos should be the wary party in publishing Amish works. [:)]

I would still hope Logos investigates the possibilities.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/121373#Comment_121373

I'm assuming the new Pre-pub on The History of the English Baptists, by Thomas Crosby (4 vols.) probably deals with the Anabaptists in it, as Baptists generally trace their heritage through the Anabaptist line, and simply dropped the prefix "Ana" in America (and in some other countries early on as well, as they didn't see themselves as re-baptizers, but of baptizing the first time after a genuine conversion/profession of faith.

Michael Lyman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/129336#Comment_129336

Are they by Crosby or Joseph Ivimey? The images of the books say they are by him and only cover the years 1811-1830.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/129376#Comment_129376

Are they by Crosby or Joseph Ivimey? The images of the books say they are by him and only cover the years 1811-1830.

I suspect the cover images are bogus. If you read the descriptions of the volume contents, they definitely don't cover the years 1811-1830. The publication date is 1738, so it would have been pretty hard for the author to predict what was going to happen in the future.

Ivimey's work by the same title covered AD 45 to 1660. It was published in 1811 and he died in 1830, so that could be where those dates come from. But it's not the period covered by this book. Apart from the cover (which we can already ascertain is erroneous) all the other data on the product description page points to it being the work by Crosby, not the one by Ivimey. So I'd bet the author part of the cover is wrong too.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/129336#Comment_129336

The most popular History of the Baptist seems to stem from the English Anabaptist. Most of these were burned at the stake for not conforming to the Church. Those who escaped this Martyrdom probably did establish the AnaBaptist church in America.. However, they did not take the more radical approach of Following Christ to the Letter... This may be how they escaped, being more liberal the conceded to the English Church and thus brought with them a less conseverative from of Anabaptist to America... I do remember the Baptist Church we attended in Tampa in the 1950's did not require but Preached on Headcovering, Non-Resistance and practiced Foot Washing at communion for those interested in this. This however just may have been our Church (Rather Large) which was know as Seminole Heights Baptist Church with a Reverand Thorp. This is amazing that I remember my grandmother placing a Hair Net over her head, The Church Name and the Pastor since I was only about four years old (around 1957-58). They left an impression on me.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/121223#Comment_121223

NOT ALL but many Amish need prayer....

This post is highly inappropriate. We do not discuss theology and judge people based on that theology on the forum. Please edit/delete the majority of this post.

P.S. As a Catholic who has taken a fair amount of abuse on the forum with Mennonite relatives on my father's site and an ancestor who was kicked out of the Boston Colony, I have no patience with this. In other circumstances I might be more conciliatory in tone in asking this to be removed.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/121221#Comment_121221

until they had a clearer understanding of the scriptures).

Because I came down hard on Fred, I think I should also call you on this clearly theological judgment on another group.