Did Logos remove the BHQ from the "Stuttgart Scholarly Editions"

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Hugo | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jan 29 2018 6:15 AM

Both Scholarly editions had the BHQ. 

https://www.logos.com/product/55084/stuttgart-scholarly-editions-old-testament

Quoting from the overwiew........

"Get scholarly editions and text-critical databases in your Logos library to do the heavy lifting for you. With the Stuttgart Scholarly Editions: Old Testament, you’ll have access to the critical apparatuses and editions of the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia, the Biblia Hebraica Quinta, and the Biblia Sacra Vulgata, along with Hebrew and Greek lexical materials to support your word research and language studies. These texts and apparatuses form the backbone of every serious scholar’s digital library, powering important cutting-edge research for textual criticism, translation, interpretation, and biblical origins.

Interesting to know what happened?

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 29 2018 8:15 AM

https://www.logos.com/product/17823/bhq-with-critical-apparatus-including-minor-prophets-and-proverbs 

Looks separated ... and higher price (both products).

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LogosEmployee

Hi there,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention! Unfortunately, the publisher requested we pull the title. We've updated the copy to reflect the BHQ is no longer in the collection. 

Thanks!

Denise:

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 29 2018 1:15 PM

What about those of us who purchased it and have been promised the rest as it becomes available?

גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

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LogosEmployee

Hi John,

This change shouldn't affect you or others who previously purchased the product.

Thanks for giving me an opportunity to clarify!

John Goodman:

What about those of us who purchased it and have been promised the rest as it becomes available?

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Nathaniel yates | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 20 2018 7:44 PM

When will BHQ be available in Logos again?  I was shown that it exists in Accordance.

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Matthew | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 20 2018 7:57 PM

Nathaniel yates:
When will BHQ be available in Logos again?  I was shown that it exists in Accordance.

Nathaniel, welcome to the forums! See this thread for more info, but unfortunately no new info on when it will return to Logos.

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 26 2020 9:51 AM

So, I own the Stuttgart collection (have for years), but I have no BHQ in my library. Shouldn't I have it, per the comments above?

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 26 2020 10:07 AM

Did you purchase the collection before BHQ was added to then removed from it?

You might be able to see from your order history what the collection contained at time of purchase, providing that FL made new bundles when resources were added to the collection.

My top three Logos 9 Wishlist items: Carta, Dark mode, and Hebrew audio bible, please.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 26 2020 10:43 AM

PetahChristian:
Did you purchase the collection before BHQ was added to then removed from it?

That's one missing functionality pair that FL oddly doesn't support ... (a) knowing what you bought by collection/package and (b) remembering (for literally years) what FL still owes you.

I'm down to screen shots of carts, it's so silly.

Regarding Stuttgart, the issue was/is especially obnoxious, since at the time, there could be several packages, some changing, adding, disappearing. I remember Matthew, and the arguments ... ooops ... discussions.

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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 26 2020 12:24 PM

I bought the SSE collection and I see that BHQ Genesis was added to my library and now in addition to all the individual volume listings I have one that is simply titled Biblia Hebraica Quinta which has them all (downloaded last Wednesday). However, the website still lists this resource as available for purchase: https://www.logos.com/product/166089/genesis. Yes my license is listed as permanent.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 26 2020 12:33 PM

Denise:
That's one missing functionality pair that FL oddly doesn't support

There’s some inconsistency at play.

For commentary series (which have nn vols in the title), FL seems to leave the prior bundle up (but non-purchasable), and creates a new productId/bundle with the added/deleted resources.

Perhaps they can’t do that in general, because it would slow down (searching) the store?

Anyway, it’s unfortunate that the burden is on the user to keep track of specifics.

Denise:
knowing what you bought by collection/package

Occasionally, I have good results finding collections/packages from years ago, using the wayback machine.

https://web.archive.org/

Since FL knows what we purchased, and when we purchased it, I hope they will eventually improve the library to include columns for order number, order date, etc.

My top three Logos 9 Wishlist items: Carta, Dark mode, and Hebrew audio bible, please.

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 26 2020 1:47 PM

My order history goes back to 2003, but searching for the text of SESB or Stuttgart doesn’t turn up anything in my purchases. And yet there they are, unlocked in logos for me.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 26 2020 2:12 PM

Ben:
searching for the text of SESB

My 2.0 was in 2010. Then a 3.0 upgrade was late 2010, both for $165 or so. I'm guessing 3.0 had the apparatus, etc.

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 27 2020 2:30 PM

IIRC, I got mine on CD, so that tells you how long ago it was. 

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 27 2020 2:36 PM

So, when I search Logos for BHQ, it makes it look like you can buy the apparatus/notes separately, because it lists them as books with a price. However, you can't actually add them to your cart, and (more relevant to me), Genesis isn't listed there. I'm quite interested in acquiring the Genesis notes, but $49 seems like a high price for notes on a single volume when I already have the SESB.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 27 2020 2:43 PM

Did you check https://www.logos.com/product/186552/biblia-hebraica-quinta-with-apparatus-bhq for your dynamic price for Genesis?

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 30 2020 4:44 PM

I did. Genesis isn't actually listed among the volumes there.

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Dale E Heath | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 30 2020 6:57 PM

Ben:

I did. Genesis isn't actually listed among the volumes there.

Too bad you didn't pick it up on CP (really cheap) or pre-pub. I always try to get in on CP, beause of the discount, and you can always cancel when it hits pre-pub. No penalty for participating in the CP resource bidding.

https://www.logos.com/product/166089/genesis

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 30 2020 7:47 PM

Kristina Vandiver (Faithlife):

This change shouldn't affect you or others who previously purchased the product.

Thanks for giving me an opportunity to clarify!

I should be in that category and deliberately held off the pre-pub and pre-order, but Genesis is now a purchasable separate resource. What gives?

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