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Rafe Andersen | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Mar 6 2018 3:32 PM

I want to start using personal books but there is so much to learn about how to format them and I have no idea of what I am doing or where to get help. This is one tool that I find unusable atm,  Suggestions? 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 4:02 PM

Here is the wiki on personal books: https://wiki.logos.com/Personal_Books 

A simple personal book is easy... you just need a .docx file. Your best bet is to work through the wiki and come back with specific questions. 

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 4:02 PM

https://wiki.logos.com/Personal_Books 

Is where the "rules" are.  

Where to start?  Just make a simple docx file [normal output of Microsoft Word].  Your last lesson study notes would be a good start.

Read the Wiki to learn how to input a book.  Use those notes as your source. As the title use DUMMY.  

[[Then in the future when you are testing something use the same title => DUMMY  - It will get overwritten by your latest test]]

Then open the resource DUMMY.  And see your lesson study notes.  

Note that getting rid of a Personal book is difficult. So I recommend using DUMMY for all your "test" runs.  

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Rafe Andersen | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 4:05 PM

Thank you so much for all the help. 

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Robert M. Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 4:37 PM

Hi Rafe:

An additional suggestion:  browse the wiki for personal book files that others have contributed. The link is:  https://wiki.logos.com/User_Contributed_Personal_Books 

You'll find Bibles (which need specific tagging to be useful in Bible Search, Text Comparison, Copy Bible Verses, etc.), commentaries, maybe some dictionaries, church history, plain old books, I've even thrown a couple of Hadiths (plural is probably something else) out there.

What you will find runs the gamut from elaborately-formatted and well-tagged to quickies. They all have their place, depending on various needs. Not only.will you see how things are tagged, you'll get some nice resources.

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Rafe Andersen | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 5:33 PM
Thanks!!
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Rafe Andersen | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 7:13 PM
Some of the documents are way over my head. I find it frustrating that Logos can't make it any easier. A shame. I will not use PB.
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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 6 2018 11:48 PM

PB's may not be for you.  Personally, I am amazed at how much you get with little or no work converting a Docx document.  If you want to do really complex tagging like Logos books have, then you have to do what Logos has to do to make our books so valuable.  I have no idea what you are trying to do, but you might be passing up something quite valuable.

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Bernhard | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2018 4:47 AM

If you are willing to upload one of the books you are trying to import (and you either own the rights or the book is in the Public Domain), why don't you do that? We might be able to help or at least point you in the right way. 

Compared to other Bible programs I have tried, import of books in Logos is actually quite easy. As was said, you can import any docx file and it will be searchable. Depending on the way they were done, most Bible references are recognized automatically. If heading styles were used in Word, you also get a working table of contents. I don't know if there would be a way for Logos to simplify the tagging needed for other things to work. The problem is that every book, for a example every Bible commentary is different.

PDFs, especially scanned books, are more of a problem, but that is due to the file format, not the Logos personal book tool.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2018 5:04 AM

Bernhard:

PDFs, especially scanned books, are more of a problem, but that is due to the file format, not the Logos personal book tool.

PDFs do not become PB unless they are first converted to DOCX format files.  And to do that the PDF needs [or so I was told] a text layer. PDFs that are just pictures of a text document do not convert unless you have some real good OCR software.  [[Optical Character Recognition where the picture of text gets converted into editable text]] 

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 7 2018 10:41 AM

Rafe Andersen:
Some of the documents are way over my head. I find it frustrating that Logos can't make it any easier. A shame. I will not use PB.

Yes, PB can be complex.  I have inputted parts of a Bible that I only found as a PDF.   I took a Bible that someone else had made into a DOCX file. I striped all the Bible text and replaced it with the Bible text from the Bible I wanted.  Lots of work yes, but, for the sections that I have added [used in a personal study], it appears just as all the other Bibles in Logos. [The rest of the text just state ‘Text not added’]

I had an earlier Bible software program with texts that Logos has not [yet] released.  The ones that I made DOCX files from do not have the cross-references that Logos adds but I can use Logos to search them.  Using some of the items listed on the Wiki I could have added the cross-references.   

Why do the resources from Logos cost?  Read over the list of things that you could add to a PB.  That is what Faithlife adds. That is what raises the price over a free PDF.

PB can be just a simple DOCX file, such as your notes on this week's Bible study, or as complex as Faithlife makes them.  

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