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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Apr 14 2018 4:34 PM

Onyx Boox will be introducing some new devices this year, including eReaders with a 6 in. and a 7.8 in. display, all with upgraded hardware and all running Android 6.0. The 6 in. device is called the Poke and the 7.8 the Nova.  I don't know about pricing just yet. The Nova should be better for Logos/Verbum than the Poke, I would think.  

Thanks to my IRS refund, I have invested in an Onyx Boox Note. 10.3 in, display, quad-core processor, 2 GB RAM, 32 GB of internal storage. 227 dpi display.  Android 6.0. Very lightweight, comes with WACOM stylus. Fits in right between the iPad and iPad Pro in terms of size. Has Bluetooth and even speakers. Has Google Play Store installed. Great for pdf viewing. You can annotate pdfs as well.  Haven't had it long enough to gauge battery life, but it seems on par with similar Android E-Ink devices. Closest thing to an true E-Ink tablet I've seen. I haven't hit any bugs yet, though a few users report some. 

Best of all, it runs Verbum MUCH better than any E-Ink device I have ever used. And - you can run the current Logos/Verbum app. Every feature and every menu looks fine in E-Ink. There are still slight delays in page turning. 

It does not have an sd card slot, nor a frontlight. Contrast is good enough to view in a well-lit room, or outside. It's also not cheap - about $550 US - and not easy to get now because demand is outstripping supply so far. It should be available on Amazon soon.  I've had it only a few days. Based on what I've seen so far, though, the Note looks like an ideal device to run Logos/Verbum for E-Ink loving eyes. 

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NK | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2018 4:50 AM

Yes

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Tony Walker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2018 10:17 AM

Would love to see a video of someone demoing Logos on an e-ink device. 

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2018 11:04 AM

Tony Walker:

Would love to see a video of someone demoing Logos on an e-ink device. 

If you search older posts, you may find a video or two that were done with the older Android 4.2.2 E-Ink devices. I recall seeing at least two.  

At some point, I may attempt to do a video of Verbum on my Note.  If/when I do, I'll post it.  

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2018 11:06 AM

Mark Nolette:
I don't know about pricing just yet.

Once someone does know, please add it to this thread.

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2018 11:16 AM

SineNomine:

Mark Nolette:
I don't know about pricing just yet.

Once someone does know, please add it to this thread.

When Onyx announces a release date for these devices, they will also announce the price. Eventually, the devices should be available on Amazon. 

My best guess is that these devices will be available by the fall of this year (though no one would complain if they came out sooner).  

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James Chandler | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2018 6:59 AM

Yes

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 18 2018 6:08 AM

One more thing you can do with the Onyx Boox Note, or the larger Max 2: you can use Splashtop, or a comparable app, to view your desktop display on the Note. You can run the desktop version of Logos/Verbum on an E-Ink display.  There is a slight delay in response, but it is workable.  

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 19 2018 8:16 AM

Mark, 

As you use you the Logos app on you Onyx Book Note 10.3, please give us reports.  I am considering purchasing one myself.

How robust is the Logos App on your Book Note?  Is there delay in turning pages?  How do maps look?  How well do searches work?  Are links live and do they work?  Does it frequently lock up?

Do you need to use the stylus, or does your finger suffice?

The more info you can give the more you will help with my decision.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 19 2018 8:28 AM

Michael Childs:

Mark, 

As you use you the Logos app on you Onyx Book Note 10.3, please give us reports.  I am considering purchasing one myself.

How robust is the Logos App on your Book Note?  Is there delay in turning pages?  How do maps look?  How well do searches work?  Are links live and do they work?  Does it frequently lock up?

Do you need to use the stylus, or does your finger suffice?

The more info you can give the more you will help with my decision.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

I’m waiting for my car to get its scheduled service, so it’s nice to have something constructive to do! 

I could do a video with my iPhone, if that would help.  But, to answer your questions based on my experience thus far:

So far, I have been very impressed with how well Verbum works on my Note. All links work. There is a slight delay in turning a page, some of the time. Passage guides and word study guides come up quickly. I’ve used the split screen mode and linked two resources (a Bible and a commentar) and the commentary scrolls along with the Bible window with no delay. 

I haven’t looked at maps yet, but I will. Text looks good. Some links are in a fainter gray, but still easily legible. 

I can use either my finger or the stylus to click links or turn pages. 

I haven’t experienced lock ups yet. There was one crash where I was suddenly thrown out of the app. That’s been it.  

The Note has no front light, so you need to use it where you have adequate lighting. If you can read a paper book, you can read on the Note. 

Hope this helps. I’ll send updates.  Feel free to ask more questions.  

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 19 2018 12:44 PM

I'm very interested in this. Yes

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 19 2018 12:55 PM

You can read more about people's experiences in general with the Note here.  You'll get all the pros and cons, and then some.

If you find the price a bit steep, Onyx should have (as I mentioned earlier) smaller and less expensive readers running Android 6.0 later this year.  

E-Ink has some limitations, and not every app is optimized to look good or work well in E-Ink. But Logos/Verbum does not have those issues in E-Ink!  

Having had a few E-Ink devices before, none of them can touch the Note in terms of how it runs the Logos/Verbum app. You will still find the app a little smoother on a high-end Android tablet or iPad. But the Note comes close.  If you find that E-Ink is easier on your eyes than LED, it's worth a serious look.  

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 19 2018 2:43 PM

I really need 64GB to be well equipped for the future (such as 1000+ issues of CT). I vaguely remember an announcement by onyx to get out more Android 6.0 devices later this year, so I'm currently holding my breath for a 64 GB model.

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 19 2018 8:51 PM

Thank you, Mark.  I  strongly lean toward purchasing one.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 19 2018 9:14 PM

Here is a video of the two devices (alas, without LOGOS):

https://notebookitalia.it/onyx-boox-ligo-poke-ebook-reader-specifiche-foto-video-26694 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 20 2018 6:43 AM

It will be interesting to see whether Android Go takes off and whether this might help e-Readers in the future.

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 23 2018 3:54 PM

Here is a link to a somewhat unprofessional video that I did with my iPhone of me doing a few things with Verbum/Logos on my Onyx Boox Note. The video is in mov format, so you need something that can play QuickTime stuff!

It should give you some idea of how Logos/Verbum works on the Note. 

The video is about 250 mb.  

https://www.dropbox.com/s/108a76spcl3pqmk/IMG_0493.MOV?dl=0

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Bill Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 23 2018 4:34 PM

Mark,

The video gives a good idea of what to expect as far as performance goes. As all I would do on a device like this is read resources, it looks like it would be OK. Resources load quickly and page turns are responsive.

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Mark Nolette | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 23 2018 4:44 PM

Hi, Bill,

Yes, my primary uses for Verbum on the Note are: reading, passage guides, and word study guides. The Note handles all three very well. It's easily the best E-Ink device I have yet had in terms of how well it runs Logos.  The Atlas is slow, but I wasn't planning to use it on the Note anyway. I showed it as I knew that others might be interested.  

The Note is also lighter than an iPad, so longer reading sessions are very doable.  

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Bill Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2018 9:38 AM

Mark,

Thank you. Watching the demos, the PDF dual-pane markup features are pretty impressive.

Since the Note 10.3 runs Android 6.0 I wonder how long will Faithlife will support it.

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