Still a Bug in Beta 1: Home Page Update

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Nov 8 2018 5:09 AM

On the Mac it is common to leave apps up, they don't have to be shut down like in Windows - so my Verbum/Mac is restarted only when an update comes down). Unlike Logos 7, Logos 8 does not refresh its Home Page daily, so today I work in Verbum/Mac with a Home page showing Devotionals from yesterday. Please fix this so I don't have to manually refresh every day, thank you.

I posted this here because (1) it still occurs in the beta and (2) the original post of this bug was never replied to by a FL employee, so I don't know if they even saw it.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 8 2018 6:30 AM

Don Awalt:
Unlike Logos 7, Logos 8 does not refresh its Home Page daily,

Actually Don - I found this a problem with Logos 7 as well - however refreshing the Home Page update the prayer list and reading plan. With Logos 8 I have to quit and restart the program.

The former was bearable the latter is a pain.

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Philana R. Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 8 2018 8:32 PM

I've filed a case requesting that the Home Page refresh automatically when the app is running overnight.

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2018 9:38 AM

Don Awalt:

On the Mac it is common to leave apps up, they don't have to be shut down like in Windows - so my Verbum/Mac is restarted only when an update comes down). Unlike Logos 7, Logos 8 does not refresh its Home Page daily, so today I work in Verbum/Mac with a Home page showing Devotionals from yesterday. Please fix this so I don't have to manually refresh every day, thank you.

I posted this here because (1) it still occurs in the beta and (2) the original post of this bug was never replied to by a FL employee, so I don't know if they even saw it.

Yeah, it isn't a bug, this is designed this way. See the newly released document. https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019175372-Changes-from-Logos-7-to-Logos-8 

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David Taylor Jr:
Yeah, it isn't a bug, this is designed this way. See the newly released document. https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019175372-Changes-from-Logos-7-to-Logos-8 

Just because it's on that list doesn't mean that it isn't going to be changed. There are a lot of things on that list that are already scheduled to be changed.

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2018 12:36 PM

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David Taylor Jr:
Yeah, it isn't a bug, this is designed this way. See the newly released document. https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019175372-Changes-from-Logos-7-to-Logos-8 

Just because it's on that list doesn't mean that it isn't going to be changed. There are a lot of things on that list that are already scheduled to be changed.

Yes I understand. For clarification, I was trying to say that it isn't a bug. In other words, it's not that the program is not working as intended, it is working as designed and therefore doesn't need to be reported as a bug with each update.

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David Taylor Jr:
Yes I understand. For clarification, I was trying to say that it isn't a bug. In other words, it's not that the program is not working as intended, it is working as designed and therefore doesn't need to be reported as a bug with each update.

In my personal opinion, it is a bug. Big Smile Probably a bug of omission.

That said, either way I agree, there's no need to re-report it. That won't make it get fixed any faster.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2018 6:16 PM

Don Awalt:
On the Mac it is common to leave apps up, they don't have to be shut down like in Windows

That's an old misconception. I usually keep two Logos sessions active (on the one machine) until they have to be restarted - 3 days or more. I can easily switch between Logos 7 and Logos 8 for different user queries.

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Philana R. Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 4 2018 2:36 PM

This has been fixed in 8.1 RC 1.

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 4 2018 3:30 PM

YAY! Thanks!

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 5 2018 4:15 AM

How is this supposed to work specifically? I am on 8.1 RC1 8.1.0013, on Mac. I updated yesterday and ran it, left it open all night. It is full screen in its own window. Today when I swiped over to view that window, and I even tapped on it, nothing happens - everything still says December 4 and today is December 5. Am I doing something wrong?

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 5 2018 8:02 AM
I think that you still have to refresh the Home Page Don. F5 should do it.
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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 5 2018 10:55 AM

Mike Binks:
I think that you still have to refresh the Home Page Don. F5 should do it.

Really? That's exactly the way it worked before? I am confused then - what was the change?

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 5 2018 11:29 AM

Don Awalt:

Mike Binks:
I think that you still have to refresh the Home Page Don. F5 should do it.

Really? That's exactly the way it worked before? I am confused then - what was the change?

Argh - not for me it wasn't. Up until this last change I needed a complete restart of the program to update the reading plan and prayers. F5 refreshed the page but did not change the status.

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 5 2018 11:50 AM

I give up - that's not what I reported and it's not what the FL folks on this thread appeared to respond to.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 5 2018 12:15 PM

Don Awalt:

I give up - that's not what I reported and it's not what the FL folks on this thread appeared to respond to.

My humble apology Don. I failed to read your original post as meaning that 'Manually' involved refreshing the home page with F5 or something similar but did read into it a similar problem that I was having.

As you, no doubt, have gathered for me the F5 refresh wasn't working and I (wrongly) assumed that this was also a factor in your report.

Having the F5 refresh working is an improvement for me.

Once again sorry for the confusion.

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Alan Palmer (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 5 2018 12:24 PM

Don Awalt:

How is this supposed to work specifically? I am on 8.1 RC1 8.1.0013, on Mac. I updated yesterday and ran it, left it open all night. It is full screen in its own window. Today when I swiped over to view that window, and I even tapped on it, nothing happens - everything still says December 4 and today is December 5. Am I doing something wrong?

You can leave the application running over night and the content should refresh the next time you open the home page.

It sounds like you are leaving the home page itself open though. We do not refresh the content while the home page is open because the user might be interacting with or reading the home page content.

Let me know if that isn't your experience or still doesn't suit your needs.

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Dustin Pearson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 5 2018 2:47 PM

Why can't there be a manual refresh button?

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 5 2018 2:49 PM

Dustin Pearson:

Why can't there be a manual refresh button?

There is under the cog wheel.

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Alan Palmer (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 5 2018 2:50 PM

Dustin Pearson:

Why can't there be a manual refresh button?

F5 and the "Refresh" item in the Homepage settings menu should both still work.

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