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Harry Hahne | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jun 3 2019 3:53 PM

Is there any way to determine the date when a resource was added to one's library? Sometimes books are promised as part of a collection or base package, but are released later than when the package is first sold (e.g. some commentaries). I don't always know when these are added to my library, until I stumble onto it later.

I know that I can look at the Library browser and sort by Last Updated. But this includes resources that are updated, which can include minor type corrections or changes to tags. The same is true of the list of resources updated that shows up in the notification on the Toolbar.

It would be nice if the list of resources updated distinguished new from updated resources. Alternatively, a field in the Library Browser for dated added to library would do the trick.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 3 2019 4:13 PM

Unfortunately no. 

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There is a special log file which records when resources were added to your library. Look for a file called ResourceAuditLog.xxx.txt (where "xxx" is some number) located in your normal log folder (note that this has changed recently on Windows to %LocalAppData%\Faithlife\Logs\Logos\). Look for lines that start with AddedResourceFile and AddedMetadataDownload.

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 3 2019 5:36 PM

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):

There is a special log file which records when resources were added to your library. Look for a file called ResourceAuditLog.xxx.txt (where "xxx" is some number) located in your normal log folder (note that this has changed recently on Windows to %LocalAppData%\Faithlife\Logs\Logos\). Look for lines that start with AddedResourceFile and AddedMetadataDownload.

Does this information hold true for MacOS?

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Beloved:
Does this information hold true for MacOS?

Yes. It's located in your normal log folder.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 3 2019 6:04 PM

Andrew: does this show when the resource was PURCHASED or when it was first downloaded on a particular device? Also, if the info is readily available, why not make it available in the library?

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 3 2019 6:11 PM

JT (alabama24):
Also, if the info is readily available, why not make it available in the library?

A possibly related question just came up in a different thread. It sure would be convenient if that info was conveniently available.

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JT (alabama24):
Andrew: does this show when the resource was PURCHASED or when it was first downloaded on a particular device?

It shows when the resource was first detected on a particular device. Depending on your configuration and the exact order of events, this may mean when the resource was first downloaded, or when the metadata was first downloaded (whichever happens first).

JT (alabama24):
Also, if the info is readily available, why not make it available in the library?

Mostly because the case to add that column hasn't yet been made a priority.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 3 2019 9:12 PM

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):
It shows when the resource was first detected on a particular device.

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):
Mostly because the case to add that column hasn't yet been made a priority.

I don't know how beneficial that column would be if that is the case. It isn't a "purchased" date and it only reflects when the resource was first added to that computer. A new installation, for example, would make all 10,000 resources of mine appear to have the same date. 

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Harry Hahne | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 3 2019 10:19 PM

JT (alabama24):
I would not be in favor of that column unless it was an actual "purchase" date. 

The purchase date would be useful, unless it was a prepublication item that was released later. This can happen when books in a series are not all released at the same time.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 3 2019 10:36 PM

JT (alabama24):

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):
It shows when the resource was first detected on a particular device.

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):
Mostly because the case to add that column hasn't yet been made a priority.

I don't know how beneficial that column would be if that is the case. It isn't a "purchased" date and it only reflects when the resource was first added to that computer. A new installation, for example, would make all 10,000 resources of mine appear to have the same date. 

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Dreaming of Library "purchase date" column with link to order history, which shows day license was acquired (not first appearance on device).

Would appreciate a way to show what resource license(s) were included in base package, library expansion, builder, bundle, ... purchases: e.g. Library column(s) and/or Web Store. Challenge is historical resource collections that are no longer offered for sale.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 4 2019 2:13 AM

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):

There is a special log file which records when resources were added to your library. Look for a file called ResourceAuditLog.xxx.txt (where "xxx" is some number) located in your normal log folder (note that this has changed recently on Windows to %LocalAppData%\Faithlife\Logs\Logos\). Look for lines that start with AddedResourceFile and AddedMetadataDownload.

Just to be clear about the meaning of these lines, I presume that AddedMetadataDownload means "added a resource and downloading new metadata about that resource", and AddedResourceFile means "added a resource but no new metadata was required".

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 4 2019 2:28 AM

Harry Hahne:
I know that I can look at the Library browser and sort by Last Updated. But this includes resources that are updated, which can include minor type corrections or changes to tags. (...) It would be nice if the list of resources updated distinguished new from updated resources. Alternatively, a field in the Library Browser for dated added to library would do the trick.

Maybe I'm overlooking the obvious, but isn't the "Added" facet exactly what you're looking for? It's located directly under the "Updated" facet, at the very last position in the facets list, and allows for the same time period splits as the "Updated" filter, thus giving the resources that were newly added to this installation of Logos.

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Mark Barnes:
Just to be clear about the meaning of these lines, I presume that AddedMetadataDownload means "added a resource and downloading new metadata about that resource", and AddedResourceFile means "added a resource but no new metadata was required".

Not quite. AddedMetadataDownload means that it was added to your library as the result of downloading new metadata. AddedResourceFile means it was added to your library as the result of discovering the resource.

It's possible for you to download a new resource and then subsequently download updated metadata.

The audit log message is just recording the time at which it was added to the library catalog along with the triggering event that caused it to be added.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 4 2019 6:11 AM

NB.Mick:

Harry Hahne:
...Alternatively, a field in the Library Browser for dated added to library would do the trick.

Maybe I'm overlooking the obvious, but isn't the "Added" facet exactly what you're looking for? It's located directly under the "Updated" facet, at the very last position in the facets list, and allows for the same time period splits as the "Updated" filter, thus giving the resources that were newly added to this installation of Logos.

The Added facet is reasonable. If you want to be more precise, you can filter Library with something like Addeddate:<June 2, 2019> (it isn't viewable in Library, unlike Last Updated).

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 4 2019 10:05 AM

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):
Not quite. AddedMetadataDownload means that it was added to your library as the result of downloading new metadata. AddedResourceFile means it was added to your library as the result of discovering the resource.

If you have time, it would be interesting to know how why there are two mechanisms, and what causes a resource to be added to the library by one way or the other.

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Mark Barnes:
If you have time, it would be interesting to know how why there are two mechanisms, and what causes a resource to be added to the library by one way or the other.

It's just whichever happens first. If you are set to automatically download new resources, then depending on the timing of various factors, it's possible that the resource could get downloaded before the first metadata update occurs. A good example is the first time you run the application in a new installation. A number of resources may be downloaded and discovered before the metadata gets downloaded.

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Harry Hahne | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 4 2019 12:27 PM

Dave Hooton:
The Added facet is reasonable. If you want to be more precise, you can filter Library with something like Addeddate:<June 2, 2019> (it isn't viewable in Library, unlike Last Updated).

This is a useful hidden feature. I discovered that you can enter a date range: Addeddate:<June 2, 2018-June 2, 2019>

But you cannot enter just a year: Addeddate:<2019>

To make this information truly user friendly, I would like:

  1. I would like to be able to sort in the Library Browser by Added Date, so I can see the most recently added resources at the top.
  2. I would like the message about the latest update to list Added resources separately, rather than mixing them in with the Updated resources.
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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 4 2019 2:55 PM

Harry Hahne:

This is a useful hidden feature. I discovered that you can enter a date range: Addeddate:<June 2, 2018-June 2, 2019>

But you cannot enter just a year: Addeddate:<2019>

See https://wiki.logos.com/Library__#Search_Fields_that_you_can_use_in_the_Find_box for full syntax e.g. addeddate:2019

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