List of English Bible Translations with Equivalence & Grade Reading Levels

Page 2 of 4 (61 items) < Previous 1 2 3 4 Next >
This post has 60 Replies | 4 Followers

Posts 2243
Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 22 2019 6:00 AM

David Ames:
Do not know the source but it was said that the KJV, here rated at 13, was used as a reading primer, that is first grade.  

That's a claim KJV-onlyists frequently make. I've recently seen a refutation. Maybe by James White? I can't remember... If I come across it again, I'll post a link.

Past IT Consultant. Past Mission Worker. Entrepreneur. Future Seminary Student.
Why Amazon sucks: Full background story of my legal dispute with the online giant

Posts 17877
Forum MVP
Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 22 2019 6:20 AM

Jan Krohn:
Would it make sense to maintain the entire list of Bibles in the Logos Wiki, so we have it in one central location, and users can add or correct data when necessary, and provide sources for the data?

Please comment on draft (daft) wiki page creation in progress:

Page Contents

Word for Word
Thought for Thought
Paraphrase

Year released or revised
Bible abbreviation
Reading level (R#) reflects number of different words used and length of sentences.
Language (L) can be: A for Archaic (Ye), I for Inclusive, or N for Neutral.
* Apocrypha or DeuteroCanonical books are included in Bible Resource by Faithlife.

Word for Word

Formal equivalence seeks literal rendering.

Year Bible R# L * Bible Description Source Affliation
2016 ESV 11+ English Standard Version Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Evangelical
2014 MEV 11+ Modern English Version Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Anglican
1995 NASB95 11+ New American Standard Update 1995 Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Evangelical
1987 AMP 11+ Amplified Bible Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Anglican
1982 NKJV 7+ New King James Version Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Anglican
1977 NASB 11+ New American Standard Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Evangelical
1901 ASV 12+ A * American Standard Version Masoretic Text, Westcott-Hort Protestant
1900 KJV 12+ A * King James Version Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Anglican
1873 KJV, AV 12+ A * Cambridge Paragraph Authorized Version Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Anglican
1790 DR, DRA 12+ A * Douay-Rheims Bible (Challoner) Latin Vulgate Catholic
1769 AV, KJV 12+ A Authorized Version (Dr Blayney) Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Anglican
1560 Geneva 12+ A * Geneva Bible Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Anglican

Thought for Thought

Dynamic equivalence seeks a mediating balance from stilted literal expression and current colloquialism. CSB and HCSB sought an optimal equivalence between formal and dynamic. Good News Bible was renamed Good News Translation in an attempt to change paraphrase perception.

Year Bible R# L * Bible Description Source Affliation
2017 CSB 7+ Christian Standard Bible Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland 28 Lifeway
2011 CEB 7+ N * Common English Bible Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Alliance
2009 HCSB 7+ Holman Christian Standard Bible Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Lifeway
1998 CJB 11+ Complete Jewish Bible Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Messianic
1992 GNB 7+ Good News Bible Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Protestant
1992 GNTa 7+ * Good News Translation with Apocrypha Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Protestant

Paraphrase

Functional equivalence seeks meaning using contemporary colloquialism.

Year Bible R# L * Bible Description Affliation
1995 CEV 5+ N * Contemporary English Version American Bible Society
1992 CPG 5+ N * Cotton Patch Gospel Koinonia

Keep Smiling Smile

Posts 17877
Forum MVP
Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 22 2019 6:28 AM

David Ames:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

A Bible Gateway article in 2016 shows MEV with 11+ reading level, which is the same as NASB and Lexham English Bible (LEB)

Do not know the source but it was said that the KJV, here rated at 13, was used as a reading primer, that is first grade.  

Reading level reflects modern education goal. Truth Project (by Focus on the Family) has a segment that includes first grade vocabulary having many multisyllabic words.

Keep Smiling Smile

Posts 2243
Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 22 2019 6:34 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Please comment on draft (daft) wiki page creation in progress:

Oh, you were faster than me...

Looking good at first sight. I'll in the process of finishing a paper, and will add all my knowledge of the matter to the wiki pages afterwards, early next month or so.

Past IT Consultant. Past Mission Worker. Entrepreneur. Future Seminary Student.
Why Amazon sucks: Full background story of my legal dispute with the online giant

Posts 3168
Forum MVP
PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 22 2019 6:51 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

These links display an "Access denied" error.

Would you please change them from edit links to page links, so non-editors like me can see them?

Thanks, and thanks for all the wiki improvements!

Posts 17877
Forum MVP
Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 22 2019 7:01 AM

PetahChristian:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

These links display an "Access denied" error.

Page Content links will work after Wiki page is created (preview has Bold destination for content links). Currently have about a third of the bibles in Scott David's chart => https://community.logos.com/forums/p/182774/1057414.aspx#1057414

Keep Smiling Smile

Posts 9913
Forum MVP
NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 22 2019 7:15 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
1982NKJV7+New King James VersionMasoretic Text, Textus ReceptusAnglican

I would challenge the affiliation of NKJV with the Anglican denomination, but much more I would question that this bible is so much more readable that the other more recent translations in the "word for word" sections such as ESV and NASB. This low grading was surely only a marketing ploy

Running Logos 8 latest beta version on Win 10

Posts 1645
Rick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 22 2019 8:27 AM

Jan Krohn:
That's a claim KJV-onlyists frequently make. I've recently seen a refutation. Maybe by James White? I can't remember... If I come across it again, I'll post a link
 

If I recall correctly, Mark Ward discussed this in "Authorized: The Use and Misuse of the King James Bible". Unfortunately, I can't remember if it was the book, movie of maybe both.

Peace  Smile

Romans 14:19 (NRSV)
19 Let us then pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.

Posts 2243
Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 22 2019 8:56 AM

Rick:
If I recall correctly, Mark Ward discussed this in "Authorized: The Use and Misuse of the King James Bible". Unfortunately, I can't remember if it was the book, movie of maybe both.

Correct. It's in the movie. (May be in the book too.)

Past IT Consultant. Past Mission Worker. Entrepreneur. Future Seminary Student.
Why Amazon sucks: Full background story of my legal dispute with the online giant

Posts 17877
Forum MVP
Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 22 2019 9:20 AM

NB.Mick:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
1982NKJV7+New King James VersionMasoretic Text, Textus ReceptusAnglican

I would challenge the affiliation of NKJV with the Anglican denomination, but much more I would question that this bible is so much more readable that the other more recent translations in the "word for word" sections such as ESV and NASB. This low grading was surely only a marketing ploy

Thanks for affiliation challenge so rechecked Jan's list with my work in progress (about halfway done) so updated several Affiliations plus included wiki page draft (daft) introduction for review & comment:

Bible Translation Spectrum

Bible Translating has a spectrum of target equivalence approaches ranging from formal to functional with dynamic in between. Formal seeks literal rendering of original language into target language, which wants to preserve original word order as much as practical. Also literal goal is one translated word for one original word. In contrast, functional equivalence focuses on phrasing meaning using contemporary colloquialism. In a sense, functional equivalence is an application commentary of the original text. In the middle of the spectrum is dynamic thought for thought, which seeks a mediating balance from stilted literal expression and current colloquialism.

Comparing Bibles from across spectrum of equivalent approaches can be insightful. Essentially all Bible translations are a commentary on the original text (within bounds of translator's believability) so look for commonality (agreement) between apparently different renditions.

For Bible Study of a passage, one practical approach is praying Psalms 119:18 followed by using S.O.A.P.
S = Scripture (Where’s it at ?)
O = Observe (What jumps out ?)
A = Apply (What to do ?)
P = Pray (about it)
At times, the “O = Observe” needs to seek meaning in Original Context to discover Truth gem(s).

Page Contents

Word for Word
Thought for Thought
Paraphrase

Year released or revised (with ~ suffix for Bibles not offered by Faithlife)
Bible abbreviation for resource filtering
Reading level (R#) reflects number of different words used and length of sentences.
Language (L) can be: A for Archaic (Ye), I for Inclusive, or N for Neutral.
* Apocrypha or DeuteroCanonical books are included in Bible Resource by Faithlife.

Word for Word

Formal equivalence seeks literal rendering (albeit some word choices are closer to Thought for Thought).

Year Bible R# L * Bible Description Source Affliation
2016 ESV 11+ English Standard Version Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Evangelical
2014 MEV 11+ Modern English Version Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Ecumenical
2012 LEB 11+ Lexham English Bible Masoretic Text, SBL Greek Protestant
2012 LES 11+ * Lexham English Septuagint Swete’s LXX Protestant
1995 NASB95 11+ New American Standard Update 1995 Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Evangelical
1987 AMP 11+ Amplified Bible Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Protestant
1982 NKJV 7+ New King James Version Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Protestant
1977 NASB 11+ New American Standard Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Evangelical
1901 ASV 12+ A * American Standard Version Masoretic Text, Westcott-Hort Protestant
1900 KJV 12+ A * King James Version Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Anglican
1873 KJV, AV 12+ A * Cambridge Paragraph Authorized Version Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Anglican
1790 DR, DRA 12+ A * Douay-Rheims Bible (Challoner) Latin Vulgate Catholic
1769 AV, KJV 12+ A Authorized Version (Dr Blayney) Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Anglican
1560 Geneva 12+ A * Geneva Bible Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus Anglican

Thought for Thought

Dynamic equivalence seeks a mediating balance from stilted literal expression and current colloquialism. CSB and HCSB sought an optimal equivalence between formal and dynamic. Good News Bible was renamed Good News Translation to change paraphrase perception. Dynamic gamut ranges from close to literal to almost a paraphrase.

Year Bible R# L * Bible Description Source Affliation
2017 CSB 7+ Christian Standard Bible Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland 28 Lifeway
2011 CEB 7+ N * Common English Bible Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Alliance
2011 ISV 7+ I International Standard Version Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Evangelical
2011 NABRE 9+ A * New American Bible Revised Edition Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland 26 Catholic
2009 HCSB 7+ Holman Christian Standard Bible Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Lifeway
2006 NET 3+ N New English Translation (NET) Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Evangelical
2005 NCV 3+ N New Century Version Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Protestant
2004~ ERV 4+ I Easy to Read Version Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland 27 Deaf
2000 ISV-NT 7+ I International Standard Version NT Nestle-Aland Evangelical
1998 CJB 11+ Complete Jewish Bible Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Messianic
1997 JNT 11+ Jewish New Tstament Nestle-Aland Messianic
1995 GW, GWT 5+ God’s Word Translation (GW) Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Lutheran
1992 GNB 7+ Good News Bible Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Protestant
1992 GNTa 7+ * Good News Translation with Apocrypha Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Protestant
1991 NAB 9+ A * New American Bible (revised NT & Psalms) Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland 26 Catholic
1987~ ERV 4+ Easy to Read Version Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland 27 Deaf
1986~ ICB 3+ International Children’s Bible Masoretic Text, Nestle-Aland Protestant

Paraphrase

Functional equivalence seeks meaning using contemporary colloquialism.

Year Bible R# L * Bible Description Affliation
2005 MSG 4+ N * The Message NavPress
1995 CEV 5+ N * Contemporary English Version American Bible Society
1992 CPG 5+ N * Cotton Patch Gospel Koinonia

Keep Smiling Smile

Posts 17877
Forum MVP
Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 22 2019 10:01 PM

PetahChristian:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

These links display an "Access denied" error.

Would you please change them from edit links to page links, so non-editors like me can see them?

Logos wiki page => https://wiki.logos.com/Bible_Translation_Spectrum has working links:

Word for Word
Thought for Thought
Paraphrase

Keep Smiling Smile

Posts 3168
Forum MVP
PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 23 2019 12:04 AM

Thanks, it looks great!

Sorry that I didn't understand that the earlier post was a proposal, and the page hadn't been created yet.

Thanks to everyone who contributed information for this very useful page!

Posts 2374
David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 23 2019 5:51 AM

While searching for ‘The Reading Level of the KJV’ I found this:

https://byfaithweunderstand.com/2015/02/23/the-reading-level-of-the-kjv/  [[Always put a space after a link to activate the link]] 

They claim
Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level for the New Testament
KJV: 4.32
ESV: 8.22

And they tell you how to make the calculation yourself.  [[I have not tried it]]

Posts 70
Scott David | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 23 2019 5:55 PM

THIS POST WILL ALWAYS CONTAIN THE LINKS TO THE MOST UPDATED CHARTS!

DIAGRAM BIBLE CHART

TABLE BIBLE CHART

Posts 70
Scott David | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 23 2019 6:03 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
... MEV with 11+ reading level, which is the same as NASB and Lexham English Bible (LEB) 

Thanks so much; I'll include this in the next version of the chart!

Posts 70
Scott David | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 23 2019 6:07 PM

David Ames:
 Do not know the source but it was said that the KJV, here rated at 13, was used as a reading primer, that is first grade. 

LOL... I'm not saying that our society doesn't have knowledge -- but with less capacity in some way... but the reason KJV rates so high now, is because it is 1600's English.

Posts 70
Scott David | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 23 2019 6:18 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

Thanks for posting all this Keep Smiling!

Posts 70
Scott David | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 23 2019 6:24 PM

David Ames:
... KJV ... They claim Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level for the New Testament KJV: 4.32 ESV: 8.22 

Flesch-Kincaid is what Microsoft Word uses. MS Word > File > Options > Proofing > Show Readability Statistics > [F7] (complete spelling & grammar check)... At the end of the sMelling check, Word will popus stats including Reading Level.

The problem is, that even if we opened the entire KJV in Word -- it wouldn't work. Word is assuming contemporary, common (vulgar) English. It primarily does the math based upon how many multi-syllabic words there are; which doesn't translate accurately to the difficulty of reading Old English, Queen's English, etc.

Posts 8850
Forum MVP
Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 24 2019 7:32 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

Thanks for reminding me of this link. I just went through all my tags to make sure they matched and found out that I had made a number of mistakes.

Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God

Posts 1384
Forum MVP
Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 24 2019 8:07 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
my work in progress

How about the Phillips translation. Recently there has been discussion about it in this forum. Will it be included in your list?

Gold package, and original language material and ancient text material, SIL and UBS books, discourse Hebrew OT and Greek NT. PC with Windows 8.1

Page 2 of 4 (61 items) < Previous 1 2 3 4 Next > | RSS