Bug? Bible Word Study Graph

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Sep 29 2019 11:48 AM

When I narrow the results of my bible word study (in this example Joy in Pauline Epistles) it doesn't affect the graph results which always show the entire NT.  How can I get the graph to match the left? (See Photo)

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 29 2019 4:36 PM

Mattillo:
How can I get the graph to match the left?

Not easily! Also note that the Septuagint Translation (for All Passages) produces more results in the graph.

So the graph is tied to All Passages for the lemma, and not to the working of the BWS.

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 30 2019 9:53 AM

Dave Hooton:

Mattillo:
How can I get the graph to match the left?

Not easily! Also note that the Septuagint Translation (for All Passages) produces more results in the graph.

So the graph is tied to All Passages for the lemma, and not to the working of the BWS.

Thank you Dave.  I hope FL can change this behavior as that would be great!

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 1 2019 9:30 AM

Curious as to FL's response on this

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I suspect this was mostly an oversight when the reference range selector was added to Bible Word Study; while we ensured that the sections themselves restricted data to that range, the outgoing hyperlink wasn't adjusted.

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 1 2019 1:26 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

I suspect this was mostly an oversight when the reference range selector was added to Bible Word Study; while we ensured that the sections themselves restricted data to that range, the outgoing hyperlink wasn't adjusted.

 Thank you sir. Any chance that might get fixed one day?

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Look for it in an upcoming beta... Smile

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 1 2019 3:49 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Look for it in an upcoming beta... Smile

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Paul Wicki | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2019 4:36 PM

Dave Hooton, sorry to hijack this post, but I am trying to find out which book I can use so it will do a Septuagint Translation search (like it does on the ESV or other translations) from the Bible Word Study guide? 

I have purchased the Lexham Greek-English Interlinear Translation: H.B. Swete Edition - but that only gives me a textual search not Setpuagint Translation search with the graph. Any ideas? 

I can't seem to understand the PM function, 

Thanks,

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2019 4:47 PM

Paul Wicki:

Dave Hooton, sorry to hijack this post, but I am trying to find out which book I can use so it will do a Septuagint Translation search (like it does on the ESV or other translations) from the Bible Word Study guide? 

It is better to start a new thread rather than hijacking a thread but since you need to be welcomed to the forums, we'll ignore that. We'll also ignore that I'm not Dave.

  1. open a Bible with a reverse interlinear and the fuller canon - NABRE. NRSV, LES ... note that the ESV apocrypha does not have a reverse interlinear
  2. go to a passage in a deuterocanonical book or a Greek passage in Daniel ... I used Daniel 13
  3. Select a word and right click to open the context menu
  4. Select the GREEK word on the left-hand side of the context menu
  5. Select the Bible word study on the right-hand side
  6. the BWS should have a translation and a Septuagint translation section.

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Paul Wicki | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2019 7:06 PM

Thanks so much M.J. Smith - wow - that's incredibly easy?! (humbling) I was always stuck on using NIV or ESV, but with the reverse interlinear in the other versions sure help out!

One other crazy question about my Bible Word Study:

Previously, I would do a Word Study & see the coloured graph (circular option) & the broken down list of how the Greek (or Hebrew) word is used, but somehow I minimized/eliminated that option, so I only see the coloured graph when I hover my cursor over the greek word. When I click on the Greek word, then it opens the list in a new tab? I want to be able to see the graph & list of verses right inside the Bible Word Study.  (Here's a picture of what I see currently) 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2019 7:57 PM

You probably only need to add the section. See the Add in the upper right? That's where you choose the sections you see.

Oops, I misunderstood your question. Are you speaking of the lemma section or the root section? This is what I get on a hover:

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Paul Wicki | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 15 2019 9:11 PM

Actually MJ - yes I wanted that all to show - what you saw when you hovered your cursor over.

Turns out though you were correct, about having the drop down menu & what I needed to choose was "Translation" & voila.

Now back to my other question...I see what you were suggesting, but perhaps still not the answer I was looking for, as I was looking for researching the greek words of the OT translation (so Septuagints Greek Interlinears) so rather finding where - see this option listed under the Bible Word Study. An example would Matthew 9:22, "Take Heart" - θαρσέω - so I can find the greek equivalent in Genesis 35:17 & Ex. 14:13 (& others) but I find this from a Textual search of an Interlinear LXX I bought, but not the Septuagint Translation option in the Bible Word Study Guide, that Dave Hooton, above, was referring to? (Unfortunately the Product Specialists at Logos can't seem to sell me the correct resource either :( )   Any further ideas?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 16 2019 12:45 AM

Somehow I'm not understanding what you are expecting to see that you are not seeing. If you are trying to use an English word in the LXX section, it won't work. The LXX section is Greek to Hebrew. Can you use the paper clip to post a picture that shows what you're looking at when you aren't getting what you want?

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Paul Wicki | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 16 2019 9:01 AM

Here is what I'm hoping for - see picture below, which is described on this webpage: https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016462892-Bible-Word-Study-Greek- 

I want to take the Greek word from the NT, then do a search in the Greek Translation of the OT (the Septuagint Translation)

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 16 2019 1:46 PM

Paul Wicki:
I want to take the Greek word from the NT, then do a search in the Greek Translation of the OT (the Septuagint Translation)

The various sections of the BWS can be removed if you click an X on the right side of the header when hovering with the mouse.

On the left side of the header is a triangular icon that will minimise or expand the section when you click it.

So if you can't see a Septuagint Translation section, go to the Add menu (top right of the window) and select it!

Note that Translation is in bold print, which means you can click it and have more than one Translation section.

Be sure to hover in the header, and use Settings to get the Bible translation you want:-

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