BUG: Orange Highlighter Is Now Dull Brown 8.9 beta 3

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Oct 24 2019 4:59 AM

With yesterday's update the natural orange highlighter, which used to be a bright orange, is now a dull brown.  Is anyone else seeing this?

PLEASE change it back. Orange is my primary highlighting color in Logos.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 24 2019 6:33 AM

Confirmed. FL, please correct.

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Adam Borries (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 25 2019 4:13 PM

Sorry, David, this was an intentional change. We updated the color scheme for notes and highlights when we rolled out the Notes tool, and while the color changes were applied to resource markup on the web app, it was overlooked in the Logos 8 desktop styling refresh. We are making this change to unify colors across all platforms (coming soon to mobile). 

I hope it won't be too distracting after you had a little time to acclimate. =/

Desktop and web side-by-side below for comparison. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 25 2019 4:46 PM

Why can’t we pick our own colors? 

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Leo Wee Fah | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 25 2019 4:51 PM

David Taylor Jr:

With yesterday's update the natural orange highlighter, which used to be a bright orange, is now a dull brown.  Is anyone else seeing this?

PLEASE change it back. Orange is my primary highlighting color in Logos.

Yes, I would very much prefer the old `Orange' color... please.

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 25 2019 4:59 PM

Adam Borries (Faithlife):

Sorry, David, this was an intentional change. We updated the color scheme for notes and highlights when we rolled out the Notes tool, and while the color changes were applied to resource markup on the web app, it was overlooked in the Logos 8 desktop styling refresh. We are making this change to unify colors across all platforms (coming soon to mobile). 

I hope it won't be too distracting after you had a little time to acclimate. =/

Desktop and web side-by-side below for comparison. 

Oh my that's not good. Change it back PLEASE or don't call it orange because that is not orange.  This is really disappointing and seems like it is making a change for the sake of making a change. That was literally my go-to color for highlighting as orange highlighters are also my go to physical highlighter. Really disappointed.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 25 2019 5:25 PM

JT (alabama24):

Why can’t we pick our own colors? 

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 25 2019 5:43 PM

JT (alabama24):

Why can’t we pick our own colors? 

I second this motion. 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 25 2019 6:25 PM

Adam Borries (Faithlife):
I hope it won't be too distracting after you had a little time to acclimate. =/

I do not/will not like the new color. Why must we have drab? This looks like someone hated color:

Only the red squares look like real colors. Must highlights look like colors for a funeral home?

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 25 2019 6:44 PM

Jack Caviness:

Adam Borries (Faithlife):
I hope it won't be too distracting after you had a little time to acclimate. =/

I do not/will not like the new color. Why must we have drab? This looks like someone hated color:

Only the red squares look like real colors. Must highlights look like colors for a funeral home?

YES! You are right, the orange is now the actual color of drab!

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 25 2019 11:51 PM

Adam Borries (Faithlife):

Pink highlighter is another color which no longer corresponds to its name.

When the different colors (such as pink and purple) are shown in the screenshot, it is easier to distinguish between colors.

But in the course of normal reading (without other colors being shown), it has become more difficult now to recognize and identify a given color, since a change in hue falls outside the expected appearance of what a color should look like.

Adam Borries (Faithlife):
I hope it won't be too distracting after you had a little time to acclimate. =/

I think it's less a question of acclimating, and more an issue of recognizing colors for what they are.

If orange no longer looks orange, shouldn't the intentional UX change be reconsidered?

Jack Caviness:

Only the red squares look like real colors. Must highlights look like colors for a funeral home?

I agree that the colors look drab. It seems like the highlighter colors are less saturated now.

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Liam & Abi Maguire | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 26 2019 6:42 AM

Myke Harbuck:

JT (alabama24):

Why can’t we pick our own colors? 

I second this motion. 

This +infinity. 

And by picking I mean a colour hue panel a la Microsoft Word

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 26 2019 10:26 AM

Here is another screenshot with what is now called "orange" and "red" side by side, it is hard to distinguish at first glance. This has to go back to the way it was. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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Anthony Dowden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 27 2019 7:22 AM

Hi. I must agree - this is definitely a change for the worse! Please revert back. A suggestion would be for programmers to concentrate on eradicating bugs and not dreaming up unwanted  “improvements”.

Sorry if that sounds a bit harsh but I’m just showing there is a strength of feeling across the board on this matter.

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Owen Frethey | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 27 2019 3:30 PM

My color orange is still very "orangy"!

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 27 2019 3:38 PM

Anthony Dowden:
A suggestion would be for programmers to concentrate on eradicating bugs and not dreaming up unwanted  “improvements”.

Please don't 'dis programmers for applying a common rule of usability - consistency across platforms.

Adam Borries (Faithlife):
We updated the color scheme for notes and highlights when we rolled out the Notes tool, and while the color changes were applied to resource markup on the web app, it was overlooked in the Logos 8 desktop styling refresh. We are making this change to unify colors across all platforms (coming soon to mobile). 

Anthony Dowden:
there is a strength of feeling across the board on this matter.

Those of us who feel very strongly that it doesn't matter one way or the other and have other priorities for the staff have generally not weighed in. You are free to dislike it. I have a number of feature implementations in Logos that I dislike.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 27 2019 3:41 PM

Owen Frethey:

My color orange is still very "orangy"!

Yes, it is dependent on (a) your screen (b) your settings (c) your eyesight ... if you have ever designed a web based system to be usable for color-blind and low-vision users as well as the "visually ideal users" you'd have a great deal of sympathy for the interface designers.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 27 2019 3:51 PM

David Taylor Jr:
Here is another screenshot with what is now called "orange" and "red" side by side, it is hard to distinguish at first glance. This has to go back to the way it was

I happen to be a bit yellow color blind - I cannot distinguish between crimson and brick red in chem lab flame tests; Mother and I argued frequently over whether something was green or blue. I actually see this "orange" as a bit more "orange" than the old "orange" and a bit easier to read. I mention this only to remind people that their visual perception may or may not be representative of the "general population of users"

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 27 2019 4:15 PM

MJ. Smith:

David Taylor Jr:
Here is another screenshot with what is now called "orange" and "red" side by side, it is hard to distinguish at first glance. This has to go back to the way it was

I happen to be a bit yellow color blind - I cannot distinguish between crimson and brick red in chem lab flame tests; Mother and I argued frequently over whether something was green or blue. I actually see this "orange" as a bit more "orange" than the old "orange" and a bit easier to read. I mention this only to remind people that their visual perception may or may not be representative of the "general population of users"

Then perhaps they should give people the option to choose which version they use, or, as some have suggested, choose your own colors. But I am very disappointed.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 27 2019 4:19 PM

David Taylor Jr:
the option to choose which version they use, or, as some have suggested, choose your own colors.

I personally hate this sort of option - it takes a great deal of time and effort that I would rather see spent elsewhere - like getting certain interactives working. But priorities are personal and I understand why some would be fine with the expenditure of resources on colors.

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