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mab | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Oct 28 2019 9:27 PM

I'm mulling over getting a new iPad or iPad Pro. My wife took my old iPad and I have been using a Kindle Fire 10 for some time. As a reader and do some things, it's pretty adequate, but it is limited for more in-depth work. The newest base iPad seems decent, but should I consider a Pro model instead? I would probably factor in a keyboard in either case. 

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 29 2019 1:29 AM

mab:
should I consider a Pro model instead?

Partly depends whether you can set the cost off against income tax. If you can then it depends on the proximity of retirement, redundancy, sacking etc.

I personally wouldn't want the iPad as my main workhorse but then again I work with two monitors and a lot of spaces.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 29 2019 4:21 AM

For the purposes of Logos, the only reason to get the PRO is for screen size. I have an older PRO, which is essentially the same size as the new regular iPad. Most of the features I have from back then are now included with the much cheaper regular one. 

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Reid A Ferguson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 29 2019 5:00 AM

I've been a heavy iPad user for several years now and just debated upgrading. I went with the iPad Air 3. For the difference in cost it is a powerhouse. And unless you the extra screen space - the 3 @ a 10.5 screen but with the blazing new chip gave me an upgrade over the old iPad without the Pro price point. Check Youtube for Pro/Air3 comparisons.

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 29 2019 8:15 AM

Great advice. Thank you all.

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 9:13 AM

Appears to me that the one other important factor is getting enough storage space. Looks like you can actually put a whole library on an iPad now. Not that you need that every day but pretty amazing if you want to do it.

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Reid A Ferguson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 9:18 AM

I have my entire library (nearly 5,000 vols.) on my iPad and love having it all there. I have 256gigs of storage, and with all of Logos, a tone of music, documents, apps, etc., I've used a little under 60 gigs. Pretty amazing.  

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 10:11 AM

mab:

Appears to me that the one other important factor is getting enough storage space. Looks like you can actually put a whole library on an iPad now.

Well, no. Not really. FL never intended for the mobile app to download all books. At user request, they added that ability in a hidden manner. They have since pulled that feature due to support issues.  There is great debate about this!

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 10:41 AM

I'm being more about the possibility than using it all. Having a lot of the stuff not in need of a download is more of what I mean. Not everyone with an iPad can afford to have cellular on it or expect to be near public wifi.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 11:59 AM

mab:
Not everyone with an iPad can afford to have cellular on it or expect to be near public wifi.

I understand why some users would want it, but it isn't designed for it. When considering which "level" to purchase, extra storage space for Logos should not be a consideration (for most users). The exception: If the user lives in an area without internet for weeks or months, that might make a difference. However, downloading that many resources will be quite a task (especially since "download all" was removed). 

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T-Bone | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 8:17 PM

JT (alabama24):
However, downloading that many resources will be quite a task (especially since "download all" was removed). 

Mobile customers that also run Logos Desktop, likely almost everyone in this thread, can use Mobile Management to download all resources (or any selections they wish) to any (or all) mobile devices they may be using on their account.

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T-Bone | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 8:44 PM

JT (alabama24):
They have since pulled that feature due to support issues.

The "Download All" feature was removed many months after the problem that resulted in thousands of support issues had already been fixed (i.e. previously downloaded resources were not automatically updated while online).

The Faithlife Mobile Reader apps are designed to work well when ALL resources are downloaded, as long as one goes online every now and then to make sure that any previously downloaded resources can be automatically updated. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 9:22 PM

T-Bone:

JT (alabama24):
However, downloading that many resources will be quite a task (especially since "download all" was removed). 

Mobile customers that also run Logos Desktop, likely almost everyone in this thread, can use Mobile Management to download all resources (or any selections they wish) to any (or all) mobile devices they may be using on their account.

Unless something has changed recently, not all resources are eligible to be mobile managed via the desktop app. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 9:24 PM

T-Bone:

JT (alabama24):
They have since pulled that feature due to support issues.

The "Download All" feature was removed many months after the problem that resulted in thousands of support issues had already been fixed (i.e. previously downloaded resources were not automatically updated while online).

The Faithlife Mobile Reader apps are designed to work well when ALL resources are downloaded, as long as one goes online every now and then to make sure that any previously downloaded resources can be automatically updated. 

If this is true, why was it removed? 

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T-Bone | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 9:48 PM

JT (alabama24):
Unless something has changed recently, not all resources are eligible to be mobile managed via the desktop app. 

Obviously, since not all Desktop resources will work on mobile devices. Interactives are just one (of many) examples but you already knew that. My point is that all resources that can work on mobile devices can be downloaded using the Logos Desktop app mobile management feature. If you are aware of any non-mobile capable resources that can be downloaded to mobile devices using Logos Desktop's mobile management feature please let us know what they are.

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T-Bone | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 10:30 PM

JT (alabama24):
If this is true, why was it removed? 


Please ask Faithlife about why it was removed.

The Faithlife Mobile apps work extremely well while offline (with all resources downloaded). I've tested this extensively for hundreds of hours.

Your next question might be "well, with how many downloaded resources?"

Well over 130,000 resources. Yes, Faithlife has that many - pretty amazing for a small company.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 31 2019 4:30 AM

T-Bone:
If you are aware of any non-mobile capable resources that can be downloaded to mobile devices using Logos Desktop's mobile management feature please let us know what they are.

I do not keep up with this, and it is possible that this has changed. At one point... and not too long ago (relatively speaking), there were resources which were ineligible to be managed in this manner. I <think> that most/all Zondervan titles were included. I just checked and could not see any that weren't allowed to be managed, so this may have changed. 

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T-Bone | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 31 2019 7:39 AM

JT (alabama24):

mab:

Appears to me that the one other important factor is getting enough storage space. Looks like you can actually put a whole library on an iPad now.

Well, no. Not really. FL never intended for the mobile app to download all books. At user request, they added that ability in a hidden manner. They have since pulled that feature due to support issues.  There is great debate about this!

The Faithlife Mobile Reader apps are designed to work well when ALL resources are downloaded. So, yes, really.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 31 2019 7:57 AM

T-Bone:
The Faithlife Mobile Reader apps are designed to work well when ALL resources are downloaded. So, yes, really.

You are making claims that FL has explicitly contradicted. If this is the case I will gladly stop making these comments in the forums. 

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T-Bone | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 31 2019 9:28 AM

JT (alabama24):

T-Bone:
The Faithlife Mobile Reader apps are designed to work well when ALL resources are downloaded. So, yes, really.

You are making claims that FL has explicitly contradicted. If this is the case I will gladly stop making these comments in the forums. 

JT, you are making claims that FL has never explicitly declared. 

Please share the posts where FL has explicitly declared that the Faithlife Mobile Reader apps are not designed to work well when ALL resources are downloaded.

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