Roadmap for the Web App?

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Keelan Cook | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Oct 29 2019 5:23 PM

Just curious if there is a development road map of any kind for the web app. I've just started using Logos again in earnest, since the release of this latest version of the web app. I switched to Chrome OS a couple of years ago and have been using other biblical studies tools that were web first.

However, I'm optimistic about the direction of the Logos web app at this point. I would love to know what additional features are planned to make an appearance. 

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 29 2019 5:45 PM

This question was asked before somewhere, but I don't think they had a solid roadmap that was public facing.

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Keelan Cook | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 6:13 AM

That is essentially what I was wondering: if there was a transparent trajectory that was consumer facing.

It's always nice to know where developers at least plan to head with a product before you start sinking more cash into it, haha. I do believe I had seen mention before, but I was hopeful this had changed. I've lurked a bit on the forum threads in the past, but I am not real sure what all has been covered in them to this point. 

Thanks for the response. 

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 6:43 AM

Before the Logos web app became the Logos 8 web app, we were updated regularly on both the latest enhancements (behind the scenes stuff, features, GUI, etc) and what was in the project pipeline. It appears to me that when the L8 web app was launched, the work on this project went stale.

The original vision for this project was, to the best of my recollection, to provide parity with the desktop app - as close as possible, at least. I now wonder if that vision hasn't shifted, since there seems to be no resources being invested into the web app anymore, at least not that we as users can see on the front end. I hope they'll jump in and tell us differently, that work will begin again soon on the web app.

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Alan Palmer (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 11:37 AM

Keelan, we don't have a public roadmap at this time, but we are continuing to invest in the web app.

This summer several of our web developers were busy working on a fresh update to https://www.biblia.com and others were working on Faithlife's brand new Equip platform for churches (https://equip.faithlife.com/).

The team is now back from that hiatus and hitting the ground running with some upcoming improvements to L8 features such as adding support for Hebrew in Canvas, bringing over recent improvements that have been popular in our desktop app, as well as bug fixes and other "toe stubs" reported by users.

We have internal roadmaps, but our plans are constantly evolving--this is fundamentally why we hesitate to share such plans publicly.

We always appreciate feedback on features you are missing or short-comings you encounter as you use the web app. This is helpful to us as we shuffle priorities and direct our development resources.

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James Hudson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 12:32 PM

Hi,

Alan Palmer (Faithlife):
fresh update to https://www.biblia.com 

As someone who primarily uses the Desktop and iOS apps, just wondering if you could explain the difference between the web app (app.logos) and biblia - both seem to have access to all my books but the web app seems to have more of the look and feel of the desktop. What is the point and purpose of biblia?

PS I never really got into the web app as it caused layout problems in chrome, but I tried again this month and it was fine.[Thanks either to you or chrome updates!!]

Thanks.

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Alan Palmer (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2019 1:02 PM

James Hudson:
just wondering if you could explain the difference between the web app (app.logos) and biblia

I will do my best.

There are historic differences and strategic differences.

I won't go too deep in the historic differences; but, sufficed to say, biblia.com was developed long before app.logos.com was conceived and was Faithlife's first foray into online Bible study tools.

Strategically, biblia.com's primary purpose is driving organic web traffic. Search engines can access and index much of the data available on biblia.com because a lot of the content is available without creating an account or signing in. Users of biblia primarily come from Google, RefTagger, etc and most of them have never purchased a Logos base package or related resources.

Meanwhile, app.logos.com seeks to bring as much of the power of our flagship desktop product to your web browser as possible. To some, it is a companion application to their desktop or mobile experience when on the go and to others it can be a complete replacement.

Your question is a good one, and I hope that helps clear up some of the confusion.

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Keelan Cook | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 31 2019 12:09 PM

Alan, 

Thanks for the reply, and I understand about not having a public-facing roadmap for the reasons you mentioned. I'm encouraged to hear that plans do continue, however, to approach parity in features between the desktop app and the web app. For those of us who are cloud-first, that's a real game changer when it comes to Logos. 

I'm certainly happy to help make feature suggestions or provide my feedback if it's ever helpful for you. I am grateful for how the tool has developed so far. There's still things I'd love to see eventually. I'd love to be able to create custom reading plans in the web app or import them from other sources somehow, and a more robust sermon editor with export features would be great (I do love that it's in there already though). Of course, the ability to do more with layouts would be swell too.

Again, pleased with the progress made and always looking forward to continued improvement. 

Thanks for your response.

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Mark Schneider | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 13 2019 7:00 AM

A web app has the potential to open up the Chromebook market. It would also prevent the need for multiple development streams needed to have resident apps for the different OS platforms.

I'd love to be able to use the full product on my iPad, and not just a watered-down mobile-version. The web app gives me that ability, but I don't yet trust it.

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Alan Palmer (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 13 2019 11:03 AM

Mark Schneider:

A web app has the potential to open up the Chromebook market. It would also prevent the need for multiple development streams needed to have resident apps for the different OS platforms.

I'd love to be able to use the full product on my iPad, and not just a watered-down mobile-version. The web app gives me that ability, but I don't yet trust it.

Hi, Mark. Welcome to the forums! Can you expand on what you mean by not trusting the web app? What does trusting it like and what would it require of the app that isn't true today?

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Bryan Shoemaker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 16 2020 8:27 AM

Hi Alan- is the app.logos.com on par with the desktop?  The Desktop takes so much space on my laptop, so I was wondering if the app.logos.com is a SaaS version with full functional parity as the desk app?  Will it store my docs and all the stuff I do with Logos?

Thanks!

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Alan Palmer (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 16 2020 10:47 AM

Bryan, I would encourage you to go check it out and make that judgement for yourself and your use cases.

There are many features of the desktop app that are not available on the web app, but many of the most common ones are there. Some users find the web app to be a suitable replacement while others find value in having both.

Your docs in Logos are all synced to the cloud and the web app makes use of many of those document types. However, not all document types are fully supported on the web app.

We value user feedback on which document types or application features you find lacking on the web app. Wo once you give it a try for a while, please let us know how we can improve the app to better suit your purposes.

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