DOCUMENTATION BUG: data not understood hence not useful but still manages to be confusing ...

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Nov 3 2019 12:51 AM

I can't find the documentation for the phrases section of the Bible Word Study. The closest to a definition of its content is:

Key original language phrases, as suggested by a Logos research team, containing your word are displayed. Click a phrase to open the Search panel.

Morris Proctor, Logos 6: Training Manual, vol. 1 (Murfreesboro, TN: MP Seminars, 2015), 35.

Now if the Concordance tool supported n-tuples, I might be able to figure out what they are. But as it stands I have to guess based upon general linguistic knowledge. I assume that "phrases" covers collocations (subtype of phaseme) which represents sequences of words that appear together in a given sequence at a rate greater than expected e.g. "strong coffee", "weak tea", "fish and chips". "crystal clear" .... Idioms and multi-word lexemes are not strictly collocations in some theories but are often informally tossed into the mix. This is relevant because some of the documentation refer to "phrases" as "idioms".

So I look at this:

So I am looking at word pairs that I have no clue as to what they are supposed to represent beyond the fact that Faithlife employees thought they were significant. The glosses leave me uncertain whether these are fixed phrases or multi-word lexemes. Then you offer me a Search which is standard, and a topic guide where I am at a total loss as to how I got from collocations to topics so I have no clue as to what you think I should be looking for.

This might be a nice feature if I knew what it was ... and might meet some of my needs that keep me missing the n-tuple feature in the Concordance tool.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 14 2019 10:45 PM

Bumped

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Philana R. Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 15 2019 11:27 AM

MJ,

There is a section in the Help File found here: logosres:logos4help;hw=Phrases_Section

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 15 2019 11:39 AM

Philana R. Crouch:
There is a section in the Help File found here

Phrases Section

This section appears in the Bible Word Study guide, and it shows any phrases containing the guide’s key word.

Results are displayed in different ways depending on the language of the guide’s key word.

• For English words: Lists the matching labels for the phrase followed by their definitions and links to relevant Topic Guides.
• For original language words: Shows the original language phrase with its preferred English label and English definition, and links to relevant Topic Guides.

Each heading is a link that launches a new Bible Search on that phrase.


Verbum Help (Bellingham, WA: Faithlife, 2018).

Nice try but ... what it doesn't do is tell me what FL decided "phrase" means or how they were selected.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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