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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2009 7:36 AM

Aaron:
I'm one of the Logos fanatics that downloaded the ringtone (it drives my wife crazy because she thinks my phone is ringing when Logos starts on the computer Wink). 

And better yet, everytime the phone rings your wife thinks you are being real spiritual.  Good job. Wink

Blessings,

Floyd

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Gregory Chambers | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2009 7:43 AM

This is a vote FOR the sound.  It is distinctive, and as another posted it "gets me in the mood" for Bible study.  I can understand that some find it unneeded.  Therefore the current option to turn it off should remain.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2009 8:40 AM

Bob Pritchett:

Do you like having a startup sound in Logos Bible Software? Is it enough that you can turn it off in preferences, or should we just get rid of it? Or do you like it?

In the next version, should we go to the trouble to create a new sound? Can a little audio logo, or bumper music, get you into the mood to start your study, or is it just a distraction?

I'd love to hear your thoughts!

When I first got a computer that could play sounds, beyond the 'beep' of that little built-in speaker that came with most DOS machines, I thought it was soooo cooooool. After 6 months I turned most of them off. I regularly turn off the Windows start-up/shut-down sounds too, and find it annoying when others leave it on and start up their laptop in a meeting -- right in the middle of some conversation or presentation. Don't these people know how to do something that basic? Isn't this one of the simplest forms of politeness? Can't they...

Sorry, started to get carried away there. [clears throat]

I also turn off the sound as a one of the first things I do when I install Logos. Keep it, update it, can it. I don't care. I'm going to turn it off.

Bob, what you should be focusing on is not long-time users, but first time users. The sound, is (after the display of the logo) the first impression the software makes. Music creates a mood and an emotional ethos like no other media. Whether to do that with a silent intro, or a musical one, is your choice, but choose the music wisely.

If you go with a starup sound, I'd suggest putting the option to use the Logos start-up sound as an option in the initial setup (with an option to hear it there too?). Most scholars and library hounds are going to want it off. Many casual,home-study users will want it on. Not many in these two categories will know how to navigate the menus to turn it off or on, or even suspect it is an option.

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2009 9:00 AM

Richard DeRuiter:

When I first got a computer that could play sounds, beyond the 'beep' of that little built-in speaker that came with most DOS machines, I thought it was soooo cooooool. After 6 months I turned most of them off. I regularly turn off the Windows start-up/shut-down sounds too, and find it annoying when others leave it on and start up their laptop in a meeting -- right in the middle of some conversation or presentation. Don't these people know how to do something that basic? Isn't this one of the simplest forms of politeness? Can't they...

Aaah!  You take me back to the good old DOS days.  I remember that I had gotten a disk with a lot of utilities from PC Mag which included one to play tunes using the computer speaker.  One winter's day I sat there fiddling with it to get it to play various Christmas carols -- "The snow lay on the ground ...", "Good King Wenceslaus looked out ... (OK, not strictly Christmas), etc.

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Kevin George Olsen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2009 6:35 PM

I usually could live without startup sounds but I do like it for the Logos Bible Software. I'm not sure why but I suspect it's a spiritual thing for me. I would miss it and I don't preference it off. It would disapoint me to not have it as an option and I would probably put an mp3 to it on my own. Hope this helps.

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Wes Saad | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 6:56 AM

JackCaviness:
Like many others, that is the first thing I do after installation. I wold appreciate it if you would add this capability to the Mac version.

This is already in the Mac version. Go to Preferences and look under Appearance. The first Interface Option. Like the PC version, this is one of the first things I turn off. :) 

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Stephen Thorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 8:31 AM

I actually like having the sound, and associate it with being part of the Logos Community (perhaps you think that's strange!). I think it would be a shame to get rid of it when people always have the option of turning it off. You can always turn it off if you like, but once 'killed' you can't turn it on. A choice of sounds would be cool!

 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 9:20 AM

Chris Roberts:

JackCaviness:
Like many others, that is the first thing I do after installation. I wold appreciate it if you would add this capability to the Mac version.

This is already in the Mac version. Go to Preferences and look under Appearance. The first Interface Option. Like the PC version, this is one of the first things I turn off. :) 

Thank you Yes. Now, why did I not see that? I'll have to ask George if your eyesight goes out at 39.Big Smile

Jack

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 9:51 AM

JackCaviness:

Chris Roberts:

JackCaviness:
Like many others, that is the first thing I do after installation. I wold appreciate it if you would add this capability to the Mac version.

This is already in the Mac version. Go to Preferences and look under Appearance. The first Interface Option. Like the PC version, this is one of the first things I turn off. :) 

Thank you Yes. Now, why did I not see that? I'll have to ask George if your eyesight goes out at 39.Big Smile

Jack

I wouldn't know about that since I'm not yet 39.  Wink  You probably didn't notice it because it seems to be a strange place to put it.  Turn of start-up sound under APPEARANCE?

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 10:22 AM

George Somsel:

JackCaviness:

Thank you Yes. Now, why did I not see that? I'll have to ask George if your eyesight goes out at 39.Big Smile

Jack

I wouldn't know about that since I'm not yet 39.  Wink  You probably didn't notice it because it seems to be a strange place to put it.  Turn of start-up sound under APPEARANCE?

My apology George. From your picture, I thought you might be older. Devil. I did think "Appearance" was a strange place to turn off sounds, but then we do not have nearly as many choices as the Windows version has.

Jack

 

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Chuck Jaeger | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 11:46 AM

I like options. It's one of the main reasons I love Logos!  The ability to have the sound on or off or to be able to select my own sound would be a nice upgrade! Thanks for all that you do.Idea

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John Kaess | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 1:01 PM

I have it turned off because its soooo very much louder than all the other sounds on my computer and just blasts out.  I have no feelings about new or old sounds, but it would be great if it was about 1/2 as loud.

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John McComb | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 1:19 PM

JohnKaess:

I have it turned off because its soooo very much louder than all the other sounds on my computer and just blasts out.  I have no feelings about new or old sounds, but it would be great if it was about 1/2 as loud.

Why not offer a volume control in the options panel? PC games software always does that. Why shouldn't Logos? It might stop a lot of people from turning the music off altogether.

Bible software without some kind of musical intro doesn't seem right to me for some reason (even though I'm the sort of person who will turn it off regardless of the circumstance). On the other hand you don't want a intro that will blast users out of their seats and cause people who might prefer a musical introduction to turn it off.

I think an option that will allow a user  to select  his or her own music is probably a good idea as well. Maybe that's a little extreme. Perhaps not worth the design and implementation effort. Still, customization is the spice of life, don't you think?

Yours in Christ

John

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 2:07 PM

John McComb:
I think an option that will allow a user  to select  his or her own music is probably a good idea as well. Maybe that's a little extreme. Perhaps not worth the design and implementation effort. Still, customization is the spice of life, don't you think?

á la "Dune"?

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John McComb | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 2:15 PM

George Somsel:

á la "Dune"?

Sorry, I don't understand the reference.

Yours in Christ

John

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John5796 | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 2:49 PM

I kind of like the sound, but an option to turn it off should always be included.

Several posters said they have the startup sound as their cell phone ringtone. Where did you get it? Would appreciate the info Smile

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 3:42 PM

John McComb:

George Somsel:

á la "Dune"?

Sorry, I don't understand the reference.

Yours in Christ

John

Dune is a science fiction novel in which there is a substance which is consicered to be of great value called "melange" but generally referred to as "spice."  It gives extended life and precient awareness.  Too long to summarize here.  It was made into a movie which you might be able to catch sometime.

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Wes Saad | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 4:53 PM

George Somsel:
It was made into a movie which you might be able to catch sometime.

George, please tell me what you have against John. Friends don't let friends watch the Dune movie. Worst. Movie. Ever. But the book is excellent.

 

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 5:14 PM

Chris Roberts:

George Somsel:
It was made into a movie which you might be able to catch sometime.

George, please tell me what you have against John. Friends don't let friends watch the Dune movie. Worst. Movie. Ever. But the book is excellent.

 

Really?  I caught the beginning of it once years ago, but I fell asleep.  It's not unusual for Hollywood to ruin a good story.  That's why I no longer watch TV or go to the movies.  I loved The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, but I deliberately avoided the movie since I know what they do to books and didn't want the story spoiled.

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John McComb | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2009 5:19 PM

George Somsel:

Dune is a science fiction novel in which there is a substance which is consicered to be of great value called "melange" but generally referred to as "spice."  It gives extended life and precient awareness.  Too long to summarize here.  It was made into a movie which you might be able to catch sometime.

Yes George, I know what Dune is (This exchange kind of reminds me of that scene in the Seinfeld episode where Elaine asks Jerry, "Did you know that Mozart died while he was in the middle of  writing his requiem mass?". His response,... "Yes, I know that. Everybody knows that. It was in Amadeus?").

Thanks for the clarification. I confess I missed the connection. That might have something to do with having never read the book and my inability to watch more than ten minutes of the movie without growing nauseous. Of course my use of (allusion to?) the idiom was intended to convey the meaning that predates Frank Herbert by a few hundred years.

Yours in Christ

John

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