Logos 9 Wishlist

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CharlyG | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 26 2020 8:45 AM

Shouldn't the propsitional outline visual filter work for that.

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CharlyG | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 26 2020 8:46 AM

Sheesh, I have 6000 and feel overwhelmed!

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CharlyG | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 26 2020 8:51 AM

Take advantage of the free training. I use both Morris(Proctor/Logos) and John(Fallahee/LearnLogos), and sometimes it takes both to "get it". I do support both guys by buyng a few lessons as well. With John you can get the Logos 8 bundle for next to nothing. I am now trying to hook it into  my writing. I'm using Scrivener,OneNote, Zotero, and Office Lens. I'm still organizing categories. I am also trying to figure out BibleNote.

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CharlyG | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 26 2020 8:59 AM

I would like to suggest SSD drives for those with a need for speed. Download ALL of your resources. My PlLatinum Reformed takes up around 35gb.

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CharlyG | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 26 2020 10:33 AM

I have Platinum Reformed Logos 8 and I have spent almost $13,000 since I installed the first version way back. It started to get really good at version 4.

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David Betts | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 27 2020 7:48 PM

All audio resources, e.g. Lexham Greek New Testament Interlinear, need word indicator like in NA28.
NA28 needs interlinear.

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 28 2020 6:39 AM

I would like to see in Logos 9 a compare commentaries tool. I think that the power lookup tool could be improved to allow for this:

1. The ability to choose collection- Like all study Bibles

2.  The ability to read in Columns like the reading view.

3.  Allow the complete commentary to appear as opposed to abbreviated view.   

4.  Have corresponding words visual filters

Say I want to study Acts 9:2 and want to read all my commentaries just on that passage. Further I just want to look at all my Study Bibles dealing with the concept of letters sent. I could pick my Study Bibles then only have my commentaries that comment on letters and then read only that passage in my commentaries in columns one after another in reading view.    

Multiview has the ability to only practically list up to 10 commentaries side by side and then not all commentaries mentions that passage or comments on everything in that passage.  

 

Powerlook does not have the ability to choose collections and use corresponding words visual filter.

Passage list has collections but are listed in Alphabetical order and not by prioritized order as in power lookup and there is no ability to add visual filters and you can't read in column view.    

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Pastor Don Carpenter | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 28 2020 4:10 PM

This is a great thread and so many good suggestions!  Here are my top Logos 9 wishes:

  • First and foremost...  DO NOT RELEASE IT UNTIL YOU HAVE THE MAJOR BUGS WORKED OUT take your time and get it right
  • Make it possible to copy translation wheels into notes and other documents.
  • Finish the Sermon editor.
  • Finish the Canvas... make it much easier to do stuff
  • Let us add labels to notes
  • Make the Modern English Version reverse interlinear capable like the other major translations.  There are not many modern works based on the T.R. and it would be a great tool for those of us in KJV/ TR churches
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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 28 2020 4:53 PM

Please do SOMEthing with maps.  I am a bit of a map freak, so just spent about 40 minutes determined to master maps and somehow make them work no matter the cost. I give up. My experience was awful.  Figuring out how to access maps, find what I want without waiting for the cows to jingle home left me more frustrated than how my map adventure twice crashed Logos.

Just give me half a dozen simple indexed maps with about 50 locations that work fast.  Start there. You already have some decent "luxury" maps, so just make those work. 

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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 29 2020 3:07 AM

+1 Maps have been a constantly requested area of focus going back to Logos 2 before series X. I appreciate what has been done and it is not like there has not been any investment at all, but if Logos 9 could make maps rock along with a fresh focus on archeology, that would be awesome!

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 29 2020 5:59 AM

GaoLu:
Please do SOMEthing with maps. 

I agree!

They can improve Logos 5 Maps and make them so more useful.  They have refused to listen to suggestions with the argument we have invested so much in Logos 7 maps so we won't improve Logos 5 maps.  Why not?  Logos 5 Maps are more colorful and they are not dependent on the internet so finding thing can potentially be a lot faster.  

1.  Versify Logos 5 Maps so you can link with a Bible.  I have already created verses for each Map.  Feel free to use that.  

2.  Create the ability to click once in you Bible and then the Map will Zoom in to the place.  You don't have to retag the cities but find a way to link with the Bible city. 

3. Create visual filter in your bible for locations in contextual Maps so the reader can easily follow the event.

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Pastor Don Carpenter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 29 2020 6:07 AM

Kevin:

The ability to create Reading Plans based on divisions in the table of contents of resources.

YES!!!

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Pastor Don Carpenter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 29 2020 6:07 AM

Kevin:

The ability to create Reading Plans based on divisions in the table of contents of resources.

YES!!!

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Pastor Don Carpenter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 29 2020 6:16 AM

MWW:

Levi Durfey:
Add built-in PDF import for Personal Books. Some of us don't use Word at all. A lot of articles are PDF to begin with and need to be converted to DocX by the user.
 Yes

Also a new feature that would be beneficial for preachers would be a sermon planner/scheduler and perhaps even a sermon log.

A sermon planner/ scheduler would be great.  In fact to add some sermon series planning/ graphics to the sermon editor would be awesome!  To be able to interface that with something like google calendar would be neat!

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Pastor Don Carpenter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 29 2020 8:47 AM

MJ. Smith:

I am surprised that prioritization hasn't shown up several times in this thread - a version or two back it was a big issue and it still is an unsatisfactory mess.

You are absolutely right.  It would be great if the resources were divided by type, THEN give us the ability to prioritize.  Also, I would be happy if Logos offered their own tag for each resource and then give us an opportunity to edit those tags.  This is especially necessary for commentaries... 

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Pastor Dan Cleghorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 29 2020 10:21 AM

Pastor Don Carpenter:
Make the Modern English Version reverse interlinear capable like the other major translations.  There are not many modern works based on the T.R. and it would be a great tool for those of us in KJV/ TR churches

This would be very helpful Yes

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Larry Craig | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 29 2020 11:21 AM

When I work in WORD, the program can be set so that it will save my work every few minutes if I wish.  

I would like to see Logos save my work as I go.

For example, just now, I did something that totally changed the layout.  Instead of columns, I now had half columns.  To back to my old layout, I had to go to my saved layout, and while the format was the same, the resources were different.  

I suppose another way to say this is to have an undo button, or buttons.  Word and Excel can undo your work up to I think 10-20 steps.  Logos needs something like this.

Oh, the reason I lost my layout.  I was trying to highlight some material, and, like often, Logos wasn't responding to the mouse, so I clicked on the mouse too much apparently, and I clicked on something, and voila, layout rearranged.

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Batman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 30 2020 11:25 PM

Phil Gons 

Last year I was extremely frustrated once again with Logos because I was able to find the verse in a fraction of a second doing a Google search for the verse where Jesus says to "deny yourself", while in Logos, it never showed up. Well, it turns out it is actually "deny themselves" (or, vice versa). I added more than just "deny yourself" of course, but, the point is, Fuzzy search did not work for me. :( 
This type of situation has made me loathe Logos for ten years, rendering it an expensive but useless software for me. So, what I would LOVE to see in L9 is the ability to find verses better. I can't really explain this other than for whatever reason, I am not able to find the simplest of things with Logos or it takes much too long. 

I've been told it is next to impossible for Logos to have our library show a collection. While not a programmer, I do not understand why 32 volume collections, for example, cannot be connected. Other software lists these volumes together; but, somehow we have to do this manually. I have a relatively small library of only 3400 books and there's no way I want to waste time organizing the library in volume order, when it should be done so automatically. Another frustration I have had with Logos that has made me regret ever getting involved with this whole system. 

If somehow these two obstacles could be fixed, I am sure I would love Logos a lot more and get a lot more out of it.
Thanks for at least asking. Don't know if it can be incorporated; I'm just hoping so. 

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jth | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 31 2020 5:14 AM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):
What improvements should we make to existing features?

It's quite annoying when the System Narrator can't read Greek words or sentences when you are listening to a commentary. It spells them letter by letter. Please make the System Narrator to recognize Greek words and read them fluently within English texts.

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 31 2020 6:27 AM

Two Feat(ures) Forward, One Sprint Back

I'm not ready for Logos 9, so I'm not going to try to answer that. While there have been tremendous advances with Logos 8, I don't feel it has been fully delivered. So, my reply doesn't apply to Logos 9 and is more meta, but I thought I'd toss my 2 cents in here anyway.

I agree with most of the other posts in this thread. I would love to see Faithlife make a focused effort towards reducing the backlog of bugs, performance and usability issues, and especially, unfinished features. It's become far too unbalanced. All the wonderful new tools are terrific, in promise, but do little more than pull the whole down when they are left unfinished and buggy, full of limitations, not thoroughly integrated.

In inner cities, some buildings are beautiful and clean, while others are rotting hulks. Why? Researchers in the field of crime and urban decay discovered a fascinating trigger mechanism, one that very quickly turns a clean, intact, inhabited building into a smashed and abandoned derelict.

 

A broken window.

 

One broken window, left unrepaired for any substantial length of time, instills in the inhabitants of the building a sense of abandonment—a sense that the powers that be don’t care about the building. So another window gets broken. People start littering. Graffiti appears. Serious structural damage begins. In a relatively short space of time, the building becomes damaged beyond the owner’s desire to fix it, and the sense of abandonment becomes reality.

 

https://pragprog.com/the-pragmatic-programmer/extracts/software-entropy

I understand that new features drive sales and that there are diminishing returns in fixing bugs. It costs more to go back than forward. But there's a balance point between bugs and features, a balance point between a business and its customers that, as exemplified in this thread, has tilted the wrong way. It's tilted in favor of too many bugs and unfinished features, it's titled too far away from the customer. While there are a lot of bugs that, in isolation, could be excused as not being economical to fix, when taken as a system, as a whole, they gain more significance. They tilt the scales. If you build a reputation for creating unfinished features how are you going to sell that?

Please consider a more focused effort to finish the features that you've started, to work on the backlog of bugs. For every couple of features you implement, take a short sprint to work on the backlog. Maybe consider extending or doubling the release cycle? From six weeks to twelve: ten weeks on new features, two weeks on backlog, then release, repeat. Maybe that would reduce the pressure on releasing new features with each release so that explicit time could be allocated for the backlog? Just throwing that out there as illustration--I have no idea what works right for Faithlife. (And I wanted a spiffy title for my post.) But making some focused, explicit effort towards restoring balance would definitely improve Logos and, more importantly, our perception of it. Because as it stands, it's starting to feel a bit of a shambles. That's not at all a comment on the abilities of the people working on it, it's a comment on the business decision to let it tilt this far out of balance.

Moving forward, my votes will be for finishing features, fixing bugs, improving usability, improving performance, and on the very few new features that address longstanding usability issues like a Search Builder, a redo of Prioritization, etc.

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