Bug - Links in bibliography of Rosalind Moss book "Reasons for Our Hope"

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Greg Rose | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Mar 13 2020 1:34 PM

There are a number of books in the bibliography of this book which I know are in my Logos library.  The links though only bring up the name, publisher and date information but the book doesn't open.  I would expect the links in the bibliography to open the books in Verbum (I have Verbum 8.11).  Please fix the links so they open the books. Thanks!

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 22 2020 6:05 PM

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 23 2020 2:40 AM

Greg Rose:
There are a number of books in the bibliography of this book which I know are in my Logos library.  The links though only bring up the name, publisher and date information but the book doesn't open.  I would expect the links in the bibliography to open the books in Verbum (I have Verbum 8.11). 

Hi Greg,

this has been discussed several times over the years, and - while the detailed way how links between books are implemented seems to leave some variability - it seems that this is "by design". Logos usually builds links when the reference is not to a book, but to a specific location (such as a page) within a book. When you run a concordance on it, you'll see that Logos has some kind of functionality behind it, the "bibliographic reference". If you click one, you'll see Logos trying to resolve this, but it can't - a long-standing bug or undeveloped feature. Maybe something to put into the Logos 9 wishlist thread.

I'd prefer those references to open the books I own in Logos/Verbum (and otherwise to display the "you have no license but you could" preview & link to shop page), and it would help Faithlife to sell even more books, so there should be an incentive to make this work...

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Jerome Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 24 2020 10:04 AM

Along the same line of thought, I have noticed that there are few if any links to bibliography entries given at the end of a book which do reference specific books or especially, journals (by page number), which I have in my Logos library. It would be nice if at least those links worked or were made available.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 24 2020 10:41 AM

Jerome Smith:
I have noticed that there are few if any links to bibliography entries given at the end of a book which do reference specific books or especially, journals (by page number), which I have in my Logos library.

This typically only occurs with very old resources - the links unfortunately are produced only for resources available in Logos at production time. Thus, resources will miss links to books or journals that become available in Logos later. Usually books are "refreshed" based upon such needs, which means reporting missing links as typos increases the chance for an update of the Logos resource. 

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Kyle G. Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 24 2020 12:20 PM

All the references in the bibliography are called "Bibliographic Citation References".

One of my big projects for the year is connecting those bibliography citations to resource IDs which would allow you to open the resource directly from the bibliography.

The cool part about this project is that the data is global (i.e. it's a database). In order to get the bibliography references to "work" we won't have to update an individual book. Instead we'll be updating the data base and anytime that data base record is referenced in a book the link will be automatically updated.

Because you'll see the changes instantly this isn't a project that will see all of the resources light up instantly but will rather be updated gradually and incrementally throughout the year.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 24 2020 2:24 PM

An excellent project Kyle. Two questions:

  1.  Is the database in the cloud or downloaded to our computer?
  2. How do we know when to start reporting errors?

But this is a super useful project that I'm delighted to hear you are on. I hope it is satisfying work.

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Kyle G. Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 24 2020 2:35 PM

MJ. Smith:

An excellent project Kyle. Two questions:

  1.  Is the database in the cloud or downloaded to our computer?
  2. How do we know when to start reporting errors?

But this is a super useful project that I'm delighted to hear you are on. I hope it is satisfying work.

  1. It's an online service.
  2. I was planning on making an announcement when I have a critical mass of work done. Stage one will be when we've finished resources that were included in L8 or L7 Base Packages.
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