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mab | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Apr 16 2020 7:53 PM

Anyone have a good handle on the overlap between some of the Patristic series. I have the Fathers of the Church and a bunch of Ancient Christian Writers as well the Schaff volumes. I would also welcome a way to make these more manageable in my library. I am thinking about making collections. I was thinking authors, but I am being more inclined to do it by Bible books first. 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 16 2020 9:07 PM

mab:
I would also welcome a way to make these more manageable in my library.

From personal experience, I would suggest that if you have to ask this question, any collection system you end up with will disappoint you. Rather, I would suggest that you let Verbum/Logos give you familiarity with the materials. Rather, do the following:

  • If you use Verbum, you have an automatic collection of Church Fathers; otherwise, make the collection manually.
  • You may find it useful to make a second collection of anthologies of excerpts e.g. Jurgens, Bercott, ACC, Catena Aurea . . .
  • Make yourself a customized passage guide including only the following sections:
    • Ancient Literature
    • Catholic Topical Index
    • Collections: Church Fathers 
    • Collections: Church Fathers excerpts

Run this Guide on short, familiar passages. Randomly read the suggestions - you have various kinds of reference to passages, topical arrangements, and raw data reference - so you get a variety of relationships to the passage. You will know when you are comfortable enough with the material to know how to organize it to meet your interests and needs.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 17 2020 7:35 AM

When I first saw 'the Fathers' in Logos, I concluded trying to make any library sense was hopeless ... unless you invest the effort as MJ. My poor solution was to take advantage of Bible references as a common base. I have CitedBy Fathers panels in both my OT and NT layout windows.  But for casual use, 'the Fathers' are not where 2nd Temple is (organization, ease of use, connect-the-dots, etc). 

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 17 2020 11:56 AM

mab:
I have the Fathers of the Church and a bunch of Ancient Christian Writers as well the Schaff volumes.

If you haven't already, prioritize them. I suggest ranking them

1. Fathers of the Church

2. Ancient Christian Writers

3. Schaff

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 17 2020 12:48 PM

Excellent response so far. Thank you. I was busy doing some prioritizing in my commentaries today, so doing the same for the fathers makes real sense. I think I also want to look at doing that for my Jewish literature and all the other extra-biblical stuff. It's not hard to find but if it isn't positioned you have more stuff to wade through.

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