Logos and the MacBook Air M1, compared to a maxed out 2019 MacBook Pro 16"

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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Nov 18 2020 7:41 AM

I spent some time comparing my MacBook Pro 16" and the new MacBook Air M1 in Logos and Proclaim, running the same operations on each machine. I created a video to actually let you see the programs working on each machine. Here's the link: https://youtu.be/_p8wtfzRzfs.

If you simply want to know whether the M1 Macs will run Logos and Proclaim, the answer is yes, and incredibly well. I timed Logos in 8 operations, and Proclaim in one (launching). The total times for each machine are essentially the same, 2:16 for the MB Pro, and 2:12 for the MB Air.

What's really remarkable is that the MacBook Air is an entry level laptop, and it is mainly indistinguishable from the MacBook Pro. Keep in mind that the Air has to run Intel apps with Rosetta 2, which allows Intel-based apps to run on the M1 chip. Once Logos releases an M1 version, it might (or should) be even faster. 

Questions? Ask away!

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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 8:07 AM

I apologize in advance for the extra verbiage toward the beginning, and the cough toward the end!

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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 8:25 AM

That was a very helpful comparison video.  Thanks for putting that together.  I'm sure it'll help others that are thinking about purchasing the new M1 Macbooks.

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Ji-hwan Moon | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 8:29 AM

Thank you for the test. The results are amazing.
Is 8GB RAM enough?
I have to use logos 9 gold, word, pdf expert, keynote, onenote, powerpoint together.

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MWW | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 8:56 AM

Thanks Gregory! Great job on the video and very helpful comparison. Now I must resist the temptation to covet Stick out tongue

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 9:15 AM

I appreciate you putting the time in on this video. I will be ordering some new Mac laptops in 2021 and this give me comfort to proceed with regard to Logos!!

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Tony Walker | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 9:40 AM

FWIW, I got the new Air (lowest specs) for 12 a month for 12 months. I selected the trade in option on Apple's site and was surprised that an older MBP was worth $750 (especially considering the intel prices will probably drop drastically soon on the resell market). I also got the edu price of 899. And with the Apple Card, you can select 12 payments at no interest. They deduct the trade in credit from the total before you even had to send it in, so the tax is not on the full amount but only on the difference (149 in my case).

So instead of 999 plus full tax, it is 12 a month for 12 months and the tax was around $10. Was a no brainer for me. My only hesitation is will I regret 256gb in a couple of years?

Thanks for the video greg. I watch it this morning. 

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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 9:46 AM

Ji-hwan Moon:

Thank you for the test. The results are amazing.
Is 8GB RAM enough?
I have to use logos 9 gold, word, pdf expert, keynote, onenote, powerpoint together.

Right now I have Logos, Safari, Mailplane, Keynote, Word, and OmniOutliner open. Everything is remaining very responsive.

Here's a screenshot of Activity Monitor:

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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 9:50 AM

Tony Walker:

FWIW, I got the new Air (lowest specs) for 12 a month for 12 months. I selected the trade in option on Apple's site and was surprised that an older MBP was worth $750 (especially considering the intel prices will probably drop drastically soon on the resell market). I also got the edu price of 899. And with the Apple Card, you can select 12 payments at no interest. They deduct the trade in credit from the total before you even had to send it in, so the tax is not on the full amount but only on the difference (149 in my case).

So instead of 999 plus full tax, it is 12 a month for 12 months and the tax was around $10. Was a no brainer for me. My only hesitation is will I regret 256gb in a couple of years?

Thanks for the video greg. I watch it this morning. 

Hey, Tony! It was great talking to you yesterday. It's not too late to return your Air and get a bigger SSD (Apple has a 14 day return). There's only a $50 difference between your model with 528GB and the $1,149 model (these are education prices). Drive space is everything, so I'd bump it up. 

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Ji-hwan Moon | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 9:55 AM

Air base model is enough! Thank you for your kind answer. I will also inform the Logos community in Korea :D

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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 10:12 AM

Ji-hwan Moon:

Air base model is enough! Thank you for your kind answer. I will also inform the Logos community in Korea :D

Just to be clear, I have the $1,249 model, not the $999 model, but I assume that the $999 would function almost as well. The only difference is that the GPU on the lower model is 7-Core, and the next model is 8-Core, but I don't know if that would matter in Logos. 

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 11:00 AM

So if I understand all this right, basically Apple now has a base machine that performs like an i9 fully decked out. Which is really cool all by itself. It won't necessarily make Logos do anything better right now but it sure makes buying a Mac a much more desirable option for Logos users and this is likely to get even better down the road. 

Thanks Gregory.

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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 11:02 AM

mab:

So if I understand all this right, basically Apple now has a base machine that performs like an i9 fully decked out. Which is really cool all by itself. It won't necessarily make Logos do anything better right now but it sure makes buying a Mac a much more desirable option for Logos users and this is likely to get even better down the road. 

Thanks Gregory.

You're welcome!

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Andrew116 | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 12:02 PM

Gregory thanks for a really clear, thorough and completely excellent video. Wow. 

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Stephen Steele | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 12:24 PM

Gregory Lawhorn:

Ji-hwan Moon:

Thank you for the test. The results are amazing.
Is 8GB RAM enough?
I have to use logos 9 gold, word, pdf expert, keynote, onenote, powerpoint together.

Right now I have Logos, Safari, Mailplane, Keynote, Word, and OmniOutliner open. Everything is remaining very responsive.

Here's a screenshot of Activity Monitor:

Thanks for doing this - could we get a screenshot with the 'memory' tab visible?

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Bill Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 12:26 PM

Gregory,

Thanks for the well done video. It was very helpful. Thanks as well for confirming that heat doesn't appear to be an issue.

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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 12:54 PM

Stephen Steele:

Thanks for doing this - could we get a screenshot with the 'memory' tab visible?

Here you go. I currently have these apps running:

  • Logos
  • Proclaim
  • Safari
  • Launchbar
  • Feedly
  • Word
  • OmniOutliner
  • Mailplane
  • Accordance (shh, don't tell anyone)
  • Notability
  • Activity Monitor

Here's the screenshot, sorted in order of memory use:

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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2020 12:57 PM

By the way, I ran the same search as in the video – {Speaker <Person God>} – and it took 25 seconds, LESS time than in the video, even though quite a few apps are open. 

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JH | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 19 2020 6:13 AM

Gregory Lawhorn:

It's not too late to return your Air and get a bigger SSD (Apple has a 14 day return). 

Apple is currently under the Holiday Return Policy and items can be returned by January 8, 2021. See details here.

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Jon Varner | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 19 2020 7:31 AM

Do both machines have the same amount of ram and same sized SSD?

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